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      Quote Originally Posted by BigFan View Post
      np, I have a similar problem having to wake up at 6 in some cases, so, what I try to do is WILD 5hr in and sleep around 12 or so. The way I see it, if my WILD succeeds, I'll probably have around 20minutes or so for my LD which is more than enough time especially if you haven't had a ton of them.
      Could you explain a little more? You said to try WILD 5hr in (i understand that part), but what do you mean sleep around 12? Do you mean sleep around midnight or sleep for 12 hours? What time do you go to bed? My internal clock is usually all screwed up. I stay up late, because i just don't get sleepy until late. Also, the time that i have to get up varies greatly. Anywhere from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m., if i'm lucky, i get a few days that i get up whenever i feel like it. On the days that i don't have to get up until 11, i usually take advantage of it.

      Day 59:

      I was right. I went to bed too late and had to get up too early. So there was no attempt for me. I get to sleep in late in the morning, so maybe i will have better luck.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow View Post
      Could you explain a little more? You said to try WILD 5hr in (i understand that part), but what do you mean sleep around 12? Do you mean sleep around midnight or sleep for 12 hours? What time do you go to bed? My internal clock is usually all screwed up. I stay up late, because i just don't get sleepy until late. Also, the time that i have to get up varies greatly. Anywhere from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m., if i'm lucky, i get a few days that i get up whenever i feel like it. On the days that i don't have to get up until 11, i usually take advantage of it.
      What I meant was I sleep around midnight and wake up at 5am which is 5hr into my sleep. I try to WILD for around 20-30min and if I succeed, I'll have around a 20min LD before my alarm rings
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      Day 57-61: failure, lazyness.
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      Day 11: Woke up at alarm, did some quick exercises, went back to bed and was asleep in a couple of minutes. I find that trying to wake up and stay awake 4.5hr after falling asleep is pretty difficult, so, no go
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      Quote Originally Posted by BigFan View Post
      What I meant was I sleep around midnight and wake up at 5am which is 5hr into my sleep. I try to WILD for around 20-30min and if I succeed, I'll have around a 20min LD before my alarm rings
      Ok, i see what you mean now. If i had to get up at 6 a.m. and i tried to WILD at 5 a.m., i probably wouldn't be able to do it. I always have a hard time going back to sleep when i know i only have an hour to sleep. It would be even harder for me with an hour time limit looming over my WILD attempt. That's awesome that you can do that.

      Day 60:

      Wow, the 2/3 mark of the project! Too bad i wasn't successful last night. I didn't realize how tired i was after working Saturday. I can't remember when i went to sleep. I also can't remember waking up during the night before 7 a.m., which is weird for me. I always wake up around 4:30 - 5:45 during the night, before going back to sleep. I went to the bathroom when i woke up around 7 a.m., and i thought that i should try WILD. As soon as i laid back down, i was out again. I woke up again at 9:40 a.m. and thought that i should probably get up. The next thing i know and i'm looking at a clock that said 10:40 a.m. I guess i was tired. Oh well, i needed the sleep i guess, but i really want to get a WILD. Maybe i'll have better luck tonight.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow View Post
      Ok, i see what you mean now. If i had to get up at 6 a.m. and i tried to WILD at 5 a.m., i probably wouldn't be able to do it. I always have a hard time going back to sleep when i know i only have an hour to sleep. It would be even harder for me with an hour time limit looming over my WILD attempt. That's awesome that you can do that.
      Well, trying my best to get it to work that way since I have some early morning shifts

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      Day 60:

      Wow, the 2/3 mark of the project! Too bad i wasn't successful last night. I didn't realize how tired i was after working Saturday. I can't remember when i went to sleep. I also can't remember waking up during the night before 7 a.m., which is weird for me. I always wake up around 4:30 - 5:45 during the night, before going back to sleep. I went to the bathroom when i woke up around 7 a.m., and i thought that i should try WILD. As soon as i laid back down, i was out again. I woke up again at 9:40 a.m. and thought that i should probably get up. The next thing i know and i'm looking at a clock that said 10:40 a.m. I guess i was tired. Oh well, i needed the sleep i guess, but i really want to get a WILD. Maybe i'll have better luck tonight.
      hmm, if you are tired, you should take a break from trying to LD. With my first LD, I tried to WILD for two days ~1.5hr each time for 2 days and was doing RCs during the day. I took a 3 day break from LDing, but, I think I was still doing RCs and my LD was on the third day break, pretty close to 7 in the morning, so, it's possible taking a small break might give you an LD through DILD, not WILD though
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      sorry guys, unfortunately im pulling out of the project. I just don't have the time to put in the proper effort. Lately i haven't even been attempting any of the techniques ... I've been super busy with uni

      Also i've came to the conclusion that WILD is probably not for me.
      In the past i've been successful using DILD and i think i'll go back to that method for good.


      For now i'll probably take some time off LD. and hopefully when summer comes i'll have way more free time. I might even do a DILD project then.



      Anyways good luck to everyone.
      Even though i was not able to achieve my main goal, i was still somewhat successful in WILDing. and this definitely helped me grow as a Lucid Dreamer.

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      Sad to hear you're quitting, edge0125. It was great reading your posts in this thread. I'll be glad to join the DILD-project when that is started

      Day 18: No attempt
      Day 19: Attempted, but too short WBTB (5 min). Gotta be at least 10 min. Damn why does that bed look so damn comfy. I must improve tonight.
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by edge0125 View Post
      sorry guys, unfortunately im pulling out of the project. I just don't have the time to put in the proper effort. Lately i haven't even been attempting any of the techniques ... I've been super busy with uni

      Also i've came to the conclusion that WILD is probably not for me.
      In the past i've been successful using DILD and i think i'll go back to that method for good.


      For now i'll probably take some time off LD. and hopefully when summer comes i'll have way more free time. I might even do a DILD project then.

      Anyways good luck to everyone.
      Even though i was not able to achieve my main goal, i was still somewhat successful in WILDing. and this definitely helped me grow as a Lucid Dreamer.
      That's understandable. When I was in uni, I didn't do any LDing because of the work load. As BohmaN stated, kinda sad you are quitting but since DILD was working for you and you got a couple of WILDs, you still gained something and personally, I would stick to DILDs if I were you. Good luck with your studies and I'll likely join your DILD project as well

      Day 12: Woke up 4.5hr into sleep, got up for ~25min and then tried to WILD. Unfortunately, I didn't get too far. I did the reverse blinking technique and with every breath, my stomach started to get colder and colder eventually I must have stopped and dozed off. I think I'll try around 6hr of sleep so that I can try and WILD into the 4th REM cycle to increase my chance of a longer LD and being able to be more aware so that I don't fall asleep.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BigFan View Post
      hmm, if you are tired, you should take a break from trying to LD. With my first LD, I tried to WILD for two days ~1.5hr each time for 2 days and was doing RCs during the day. I took a 3 day break from LDing, but, I think I was still doing RCs and my LD was on the third day break, pretty close to 7 in the morning, so, it's possible taking a small break might give you an LD through DILD, not WILD though
      I think i was just tired from getting up early and working, but i made up for it with a lot of sleep.

      Quote Originally Posted by edge0125 View Post
      sorry guys, unfortunately im pulling out of the project. I just don't have the time to put in the proper effort. Lately i haven't even been attempting any of the techniques ... I've been super busy with uni

      Anyways good luck to everyone.
      Even though i was not able to achieve my main goal, i was still somewhat successful in WILDing. and this definitely helped me grow as a Lucid Dreamer.
      Like everyone else said, hate to see you leave the project, but i understand. I have so many projects and papers that are soon to be due in my uni; i think the stress is screwing up my WILD attempts.

      Day 61:

      No attempt. I don't know why i didn't try. I think i just totally forgot. I know that staying up late isn't helping, so i should probably try to get to bed earlier. I seem to be too distracted by the cares of the day to have lucid fun at night, although i have had a few DILD's and 2 WILD's during this project. I need to come up with a specific battle plan and stick to it. It probably wouldn't hurt to do more rc's during the day so i could at least get some more DILD's. Since i've been focusing on WILD; it usually doesn't occur to me to do rc's since they're not really related to the WILD technique. Oh well, guess i need better focus.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow View Post
      I think i was just tired from getting up early and working, but i made up for it with a lot of sleep.
      I've been lazy with my WILD attempts as well, so, you aren't the only one?

      Quote Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow View Post
      Day 61:

      No attempt. I don't know why i didn't try. I think i just totally forgot. I know that staying up late isn't helping, so i should probably try to get to bed earlier. I seem to be too distracted by the cares of the day to have lucid fun at night, although i have had a few DILD's and 2 WILD's during this project. I need to come up with a specific battle plan and stick to it. It probably wouldn't hurt to do more rc's during the day so i could at least get some more DILD's. Since i've been focusing on WILD; it usually doesn't occur to me to do rc's since they're not really related to the WILD technique. Oh well, guess i need better focus.
      Personally, I still do RCs during the day but only a couple(5 or so) where I question my reality and really come to the conclusion that I'm awake and not asleep
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      I read through Naniyas guide, and since she didn't do a very long WBTB, but wrote that it's important to WILD in a position you don't usually sleep, I tried that, BUT: failed. I SHALL do a longer WBTB tonight. F*KKk
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      @BohmaN Just gotta relax. You will eventually WILD. What I would do is sleep in any comfortable position, changing into another position every 10 min or so if you need to and just wait for the HI and watch them passively when they come Everyone in this project is having failures but you gotta pick yourself up and keep on going

      Day 13: Well, quite an odd day. I had 11hr of sleep the previous with about an hour nap during that same day. I went to bed but wasn't able to sleep for around 1.5hr. This is where it gets interesting. I laid down and tried 3 differents positions(back and sides). Eventually, after struggling to sleep, I could feel my body going numb. This continued and felt like it spread a little and then I felt the spinning sensation where it would pick up and then stop and start picking up again. I personally enjoy it because I usually control it and make it feel like I am spinning faster. I almost had some vibrations if my brother didn't kick his bed and stop them Eventually, I forced myself to fall asleep and woke up much later, so, no other WILDing attempts
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      I guess I'll start tonight, but don't make fun of me if I can't do it D:.

      Last night I tried the whole thing with an anchor for WILD, but I don't remember my exact thoughts. They were along the lines of "Why am I even doing this". Maybe I have a split personality as I sleep.
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