The 90 Days WILD Project Phase 2

**Clyde Machine** · 04-17-2010 03:11 PM

The 90 Days WILD Project
Phase 2

Welcome to the second phase of the 90 Days WILD Project program for improving your WILD technique!

For those who haven't taken part in the first phase or who haven't even heard of this project, all you have to do is accept the challenge that you will dedicate ninety days - that's three months - of your time to improving your WILDing.

The second phase of the project is intended for Phase 1 veterans to continue to work on their WILD technique if they weren't satisfied with their results, but on a self-driven schedule - the days that count toward your 90 days of WILD practice are those that you make attempts on, meaning that participants won't be penalized for taking time away from the project for whatever reason, as it was with the rigid 90-day requirement for the first phase. Because this phase is aimed at Phase 1 veterans, you are required to complete Phase 1, or PM an appeal for early entry into Phase 2.

If you would like to get involved with the 90 Days WILD Project, begin here with Phase 1, and best of luck to everyone!

Here's the run-down of what's going on with Phase 2:

The 90 Days WILD Project has been expanded into two Phases: 1) challenge yourself to dedicate 90 days of your time to practicing WILDs, and 2) work on and log your progress with practicing WILD techniques, logging only on the days you attempt to WILD.
Phase 2 is an extension to the 90 Days WILD Project begun by edge0125, and is meant for Phase 1 veterans that didn't improve their WILD technique enough to be satisfied with their results of the first phase, but holds the ultimate goal of helping everyone learn to WILD, so we won't be so strict on you if you want to bypass Phase 1.
If you qualify to enter the second phase of the project, all you have to do is post that you'd like to join up, and keep a log of your progress in this topic, as done in the first phase topic.
To clarify about the program: you may remove yourself from involvement with the project at any time you wish, and may resume at any time you wish. Similarly, you may choose to restart your counter at any point in either phase, though this is most applicable to the first phase. If you choose to remove yourself and resume progress in the first phase, it would be in your best interest to restart your counter, as the intention of the first phase is to push you to work on WILDs for three months to improve your abilities with WILD techniques.
See the bottom of this post for information on appealing for early entry into Phase 2.

With that, I wish you all luck with the program!

~Clyde

Last updated: 6.26.10

**ATTN: Those wondering why one must complete the first phase to advance to the second phase, please read this post from Phase 1, which explains the purpose of the order of the phases and the reason for the necessary prerequisite.

For those not understanding it clearly, think of the first phase as proving to yourself that you can commit to a 90 day self-driven project, since the first one is deadline-driven. If you can do Phase 1, you can be very sure you're capabable of doing Phase 2.

Good luck everyone!
-Clyde, 4.18.10

**ATTN: Hello everyone, good to see so many people still working with the 90 Days WILD Project to learn to WILD!

From this point onward, I will be accepting appeals for early entry to Phase 2 based on a few criteria. When making your appeal through PM, please bear in mind the meaning of the rules - to prove to others and to yourself that you can keep committed to a 90-day self-driven project. While it's non-linear and designed to not put pressure on you (whereas the first Phase is the exact opposite), we do want to have motivated oneironauts in here. Think you're ready for Phase 2? Send me a PM!
-Clyde, 6.26.10

**AndresLD** · 04-22-2010 03:10 PM

I'm done phase 1, and I'm not too happy about my last 5 days, in 3 of them I slept through my alarm so I didn't even get to take a shot at WILD, but this won't "waste" my days in phase 2 because they wouldn't count as days for the project

I'll start phase 2 pretty soon, maybe less than a week

**dark_grimmjow** · 04-27-2010 09:38 PM

I'll be joining in on phase 2 soon. I think my last exam day is May 5, so i'll probably start around then. Hope more people join in on phase 2.

**AndresLD** · 05-05-2010 04:18 AM

I've been extremely lazy!
But I'm gonna try using CAT-WILD (started last night) it is a LOT like DEILD, but I was wondering if it would still count for the project?
If so, I guess today was day 1 for me, I didn't succeed at CAT-WILD, however I had 2 DEILDs (the first one might have been a WILD, but for now I will count it as a DEILD)

**AndresLD** · 05-06-2010 05:53 AM

CAN-WILD, my bad! (sorry for the double post, can't edit my older post)

**BigFan** · 05-06-2010 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by AndresLD

CAN-WILD, my bad! (sorry for the double post, can't edit my older post)

Must be due to my CAT thread

**AndresLD** · 05-07-2010 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by BigFan

Must be due to my CAT thread

It is

!
I went over it about 2 weeks about, it looks great! But it needs to much commitment, and waking up 1 hour and a half before you usually do, for one week, which I can't afford right now xD

**BigFan** · 05-07-2010 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by AndresLD

It is

!
I went over it about 2 weeks about, it looks great! But it needs to much commitment, and waking up 1 hour and a half before you usually do, for one week, which I can't afford right now xD

I know what you mean. Yes, it requires a stable schedule but I think that's due to the 1.5hr part because you are supposed to get a rem rebound along with changing your brain chemistry by waking up earlier than your schedule. Personally, I'll admit that at first it was hard to think about sleeping at 11, since, I've slept at 12, 12:30 and in many cases when I had a chance, at 2, etc.... in the morning, however, what it comes down to is that you have to think of the outcome. The way I look at it is, it's much better to sleep at 10 or 11, wake up at 6 or 7 and get a couple of LDs a week than to sleep really late and have a messed up schedule. Also, the 1.5hr waking up part is no doubt a difficult one. I've been waking up 1.5hr for the last 3 days and today I haven't had a nap yet and it's killing me literally and I also had work this morning. Anyways, personally am excited to see the results. Worst case scenario, I get no LDs at all for whatever reason(maybe couldn't recall them, etc....). Best case scenario, it works like a charm and I find out that this method is the method that works better than WILDs and DILDs, so, I move my schedule to 10-6 in June, so, that I have 8hr of sleep to avoid being tired when I wake up and I make sure to maintain the schedule

Better to experiment and get the results than to think about what could have been

**AndresLD** · 05-07-2010 03:09 AM

Yeah, I really liked the stats

. 4 Lucids in one week? That's insanely good!
I might give it a shot in summer, but for now I can't go to bed earlier because of school (homework and stuff),
and can't wake up earlier because I really need my sleep (I'm doing a lot of exercise lately, training for an upcoming taekwondo tournament)
but I hope it works for you

!.

I understand the whole REM-rebound thing, because at the same time I found out about lucid dreaming, I found out an alternate way to refresh your sleep, than normal sleep. It consists of taking 6 naps a day, for half an hour each, every 4 hours. The first 2 weeks you don't get any REM, AT ALL, according to the article I read, after 2 weeks ,your brain says "Fuck it, we'll do it your way" and goes directly into REM as soon as you start napping, for the whole nap. This means you get 30 minutes of REM, 6 times a day, do the math and that's 3 hours of REM, daily, compared to the average 1.5-2 hours of REM you normally get.
Here's the article, it's funny and interesting: http://www.cracked.com/article/127_5...o-awesomeness/

**BigFan** · 05-07-2010 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by AndresLD

Yeah, I really liked the stats

. 4 Lucids in one week? That's insanely good!
I might give it a shot in summer, but for now I can't go to bed earlier because of school (homework and stuff),
and can't wake up earlier because I really need my sleep (I'm doing a lot of exercise lately, training for an upcoming taekwondo tournament)
but I hope it works for you

!.

I understand the whole REM-rebound thing, because at the same time I found out about lucid dreaming, I found out an alternate way to refresh your sleep, than normal sleep. It consists of taking 6 naps a day, for half an hour each, every 4 hours. The first 2 weeks you don't get any REM, AT ALL, according to the article I read, after 2 weeks ,your brain says "Fuck it, we'll do it your way" and goes directly into REM as soon as you start napping, for the whole nap. This means you get 30 minutes of REM, 6 times a day, do the math and that's 3 hours of REM, daily, compared to the average 1.5-2 hours of REM you normally get.
Here's the article, it's funny and interesting: http://www.cracked.com/article/127_5...o-awesomeness/

Yes, very good. Of course, you need some dream recall to remember all of them, but, if I am able to have at least one a week, then I would think it's worked, since, I haven't been doing much RCing IRL and not much WILDing either

I understand where you're going, school is more important. Once summer hits, then I would have went through the rest of the research and would have determined how well it works for me at least which would help you with your choice. That sleep schedule is called uberman but it's pretty hard to get used to it. Everyman is also a similar one(another polyphasic sleep) but easier to get used to and pursue

Finally, interesting article, thanks. I've heard of a couple of those but that ping pong one was pretty interesting

**Clyde Machine** · 05-08-2010 06:17 AM

Hey folks! How are things with WILDing going for everyone? I should be dropping in here as soon as I close up my details on Phase 1 (yes, it's been a long time since I finished Phase 1, but I never posted my results from my last week, shame on me), and once I get things back in order with my DJ and my LDing practice. I've fallen out of having semi-regular lucid dreams, which is odd for me. I'll be getting back into the full swing of things soon, which will allow me to get into Phase 2 properly. See you folks soon!

**BigFan** · 05-08-2010 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Hey folks! How are things with WILDing going for everyone? I should be dropping in here as soon as I close up my details on Phase 1 (yes, it's been a long time since I finished Phase 1, but I never posted my results from my last week, shame on me), and once I get things back in order with my DJ and my LDing practice. I've fallen out of having semi-regular lucid dreams, which is odd for me. I'll be getting back into the full swing of things soon, which will allow me to get into Phase 2 properly. See you folks soon!

Everything is going well, currently pursuing CAT(see link in sig for more details), however, I decided that if I feel like I can WILD a certain night before bed, I would go for it

**dark_grimmjow** · 05-11-2010 10:31 PM

I was going to start phase 2 about a week ago, but i don't think i was quite ready. My dream recall has really gone down. I'm going to work on my recall for about a week, and then jump into phase 2. If my recall comes back all of a sudden, i won't wait a week, but first things first. What's the point in having awesome dreams if you can't remember them!

**AndresLD** · 05-12-2010 05:30 AM

I've been wanting to start for a long time, but I've been lazy lately.
Funny thing happened yesterday:
I was in a dream, talking to my DC girlfriend. We decided to try to WILD and share a dream. I lied down, closed my eyes (So far all this is non lucid btw). SP hit immediately, I stood up in a new place, did a reality check, and noticed I was dreaming. My girlfriend was there with me. "Are we dream sharing" she asked. "Shared dreaming, you mean?" I said, giggling. "What ever, you know what i meant, WE ARE!" I wake up in my previous dream, look at her, and she wakes up too, we then talked about the shared dream we just had, and after a while woke up. So I guess that counts as being lucid (at least during the part where I thought I had WILDed) but it's a DILD

**AndresLD** · 05-14-2010 05:02 PM

Well, why not start day one with a success

I went to bed at 11:30. I set up my CAN WILD alarm so that the last (fourth) beep went off at 4:30. I didn't wake up at any of the four CAN WILD alarms. However I did set my cellphone alarm to wake me up at 5:00. I woke up at 5:00, then instead of getting out of bed I played a game on my ipod for 15 minutes, then listened to music for another 15 minutes while on facebook (still on my ipod touch), and at 5:30 decided to go to sleep. Just like 4 of my other WILD's, by just intending to go to sleep, Sleep Paralysis set in, and I had a pretty long WILD, for about 10-15 minutes, which then ended but I chained it with a DEILD to another 10-15 minutes long lucid dream

.

**Clyde Machine** · 05-15-2010 11:10 PM

Congrats on a great success for your first day!

**dark_grimmjow** · 05-16-2010 12:20 AM

Great job AndresLD! That's a great way to start the next phase. I'm still working on the dream recall before i start phase 2. If i can get another ld my dream recall should go back to normal. Anyway, good luck everybody on phase 2!

**BigFan** · 05-16-2010 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by AndresLD

Well, why not start day one with a success

I went to bed at 11:30. I set up my CAN WILD alarm so that the last (fourth) beep went off at 4:30. I didn't wake up at any of the four CAN WILD alarms. However I did set my cellphone alarm to wake me up at 5:00. I woke up at 5:00, then instead of getting out of bed I played a game on my ipod for 15 minutes, then listened to music for another 15 minutes while on facebook (still on my ipod touch), and at 5:30 decided to go to sleep. Just like 4 of my other WILD's, by just intending to go to sleep, Sleep Paralysis set in, and I had a pretty long WILD, for about 10-15 minutes, which then ended but I chained it with a DEILD to another 10-15 minutes long lucid dream

.

Congrats on the LD

Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow

Great job AndresLD! That's a great way to start the next phase. I'm still working on the dream recall before i start phase 2. If i can get another ld my dream recall should go back to normal. Anyway, good luck everybody on phase 2!

I think that's the main reason my CAT method isn't working very well. Bad dream recall and my schedule has changed the last couple of days

**AndresLD** · 05-16-2010 05:39 AM

Thanks Clyde, Grim, and BigFan

I hope it gives me, and other people in the project, good momentum

!
Tomorrow at 5:00 I might give it another shot, for my second day

**AndresLD** · 05-18-2010 05:06 PM

Day 2:
I woke up at 5:00, stayed up until 5:30, then went to sleep, took me about 40 minutes to fall asleep, no sleep paralysis this time, no WILD success

**dark_grimmjow** · 05-21-2010 01:18 AM

I'm going to start phase 2 tonight, if i can get a good attempt in. Oh yeah, and thanks AndresLD. I had a DEILD a few days ago and it was because i read the post about your DEILD. I was in an ld and it was about to end, so i thought, AndresLD got a DEILD; maybe i should try it too. It worked! Thanks!

I got a DILD in an afternoon nap at about 5:30 PM, so i'm freshly motivated for a WILD success tonight. I'm going to try to make it a VILD if possible.

**AndresLD** · 05-23-2010 12:15 AM

|Hahaha, glad to know I helped you get a DEILD

I think that's better than spinning and touching your hands to keep your LD.
Good job on the ld's, keep 'em coming

**dark_grimmjow** · 06-04-2010 06:07 PM

Not many people moving on to phase 2.

I've been meaning to start phase 2, but i guess you could say i've been overly picky on the nights i was planning to start and maybe a little lazy too. I was planning on starting last night, but not long before bed, i found out that i would have to get up at 6am so no WILD attempt. I barely got 5 hours last night. Anyway...I'll probably have to get up early in the morning again, but i don't think it will be early enough to screw up an attempt. I'm going to set an alarm tonight and give it a go.

**AndresLD** · 06-05-2010 03:28 AM

I need to get back to LDing :S.
I've been pretty busy lately, I haven't written on my journal, haven't tried WILD

I miss lucid dreaming

**BigFan** · 06-06-2010 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by AndresLD

I need to get back to LDing :S.
I've been pretty busy lately, I haven't written on my journal, haven't tried WILD

I miss lucid dreaming

On the bright side, it seems like you got a good taste for LDs. I've only had a couple and they weren't the most vivid

I'll be joining you guys soon, I only have 4 days left in phase 1, then I plan to give WILD my all in phase 2

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