Thread: If matter cant be created or destroyed, where did all this stuff come from?

another thing i would like to add:if we want ot find about the initial state or before the big bang let' stake it this way:blackholes.
all the matter sucked into them goes to a point where gravity is infinit and time unexistent or slowed down.
so we might supose that the universe has always passed threw these states but the main question is this how can pure energy be transformed into matter and i fit's possible where did that energy come from?

Returning to the original point of this thread for a moment, then yes, it certainly might be true what you're saying. There's no way for us to scientifically disprove something, that is beyond the laws of our science. However, at the same time, you can't scientifcally prove anything in regards to this theory either.

In the end, judging from some of your posts in here, you really just want a creator to exist, so that our existance doesn't become meaningless. The fact of the matter though, is that from everything we know now, from looking at how the universe is moving around, the Big Bang is most likely the start of how our universe is currently looking.

The universe in its current state has been around for about 14 billion years, supposedly. The Earth has been around for abound 4.5 billion years. From what we can see, life did not form before things settled down a bit on Earth, which took about 0.7 billion years. It took another 3.78 billion years before anything resembling current day humans emerged.
My point is that it is very unlikely, that humans were intelligently designed, it's very unlikely that the universe was created with humans in mind, it's very unlikely that the universe was created with anything in mind and it's very unlikely that the universe was created by anything that can have the human concept of consciousness or thought-process assigned to it.

If you have ever read the Watchmen comic or atleast seen the motioncomic/movie, you will maybe remember a very enlightening scene from Mars. Mr. Manhattan points out the fact, that the Martian landscapes are just as fascinating as humans. Do not forget this, because we really aren't more than Martian landscapes. Our concepts of knowing anything, changing anything, having power, they are all something that is made up by the human mind, and also limited to the human mind and other organisms that can think in the same way.

The universe doesn't care about us and it never will.

Originally Posted by Klaudyw3

another thing i would like to add:if we want ot find about the initial state or before the big bang let' stake it this way:blackholes.
all the matter sucked into them goes to a point where gravity is infinit and time unexistent or slowed down.
so we might supose that the universe has always passed threw these states but the main question is this how can pure energy be transformed into matter and i fit's possible where did that energy come from?

TWO BEAMS OF FUCKING PURE ENERGY COLLIDE AND GO FUCKING BOOM.
Excuse my state of drunkness.

Everything is where it always was, doing what it's always done. It just looks different from where you're standing.

Check this out, I might have pulled this clip off this website that someone posted, but I don't really remember where I found it.

The particles they accelerate in the LHC gain mass as they approach the speed of light (attempting to add more kinetic energy to the particles to find they just keep gaining more and more mass like Xei entailed).

http://ing.dk/artikel/92168-saadan-v...kelaccelerator

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

Check this out, I might have pulled this clip off this website that someone posted, but I don't really remember where I found it.

The particles they accelerate in the LHC gain mass as they approach the speed of light (attempting to add more kinetic energy to the particles to find they just keep gaining more and more mass like Xei entailed).

http://ing.dk/artikel/92168-saadan-v...kelaccelerator

I linked to that video See post #110 just above.

It's a great educational video, with nice visuals.

Oh my mistake bahahaha. I haven't been here for a while, I do appreciate that vid though thanks for the link.

Crap, this thread is old...

As it has probably been stated above, matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but they can be converted back and forth. In nuclear weapons and such, a small amount of matter is converted to pure energy. Scientists at CERN and other facilities are also trying to get matter out of energy...not sure if they've succeeded yet or not.