Thread: are you a genious?

Originally Posted by Sandform

I bet you wouldn't call an uneducated intelligent person a genius.

Generally speaking, no. A lot of the time people are uneducated because they are unable to learn. I call the measure of one's ability to learn and solve problems their intelligence. The two generally go hand in hand, though.

ok wow i wasnt expecting this but yeh i guess i should explain more.

I wasnt making a connections between age and aspergers just saying that the people i know like me fit in that category.

I havnt taken a proper IQ test but will when i can and i dont think this has anything a lot to do with intelligence.

And cannabisman i didnt say friends cause i dont like most kids my age.

Im not talking about KNOWLEDGE at im talking about common sense.

Im arrogant about it because i can be, if im smart i have no problem with saying im smart but if someone stupid said they are smart then thats just being a prick.

As i said before if your one you will know and wont need a lot of explanation.

Generally I would say a smart person would say something like...

I'm not dumb.

I would have to think that if your truly smart you would acknowledge that there are MANY things you don't know, and you would also acknowledge that appearances can be deceiving and most people put on shows. They aren't stupid, they just act like a fool to fit in.

Most people think Jessica simpson is a bimbo, but guess who makes mucho dinero from being a "bimbo."

I don't really have a problem with people saying they're smart, but when they are arrogant enough to say they are smarter than other people it becomes a problem for me.

I will concede to the genius thing if the sentence proclaims what field of genius you speak of.

But a general genius? Doesn't exist.

yeh genius is the wrong word but smart doesnt fit well either because im not talking about being amazingly good at everything or one thing i mean being able to learn quick, think quick and think more rationally.

You guys still don't understand the difference between knowledgable and intellectual...

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

You guys still don't understand the difference between knowledgable and intellectual...

That's because they are synonymous.

Synonyms 1, 2. mental. 3. See intelligent.

Synonyms: These adjectives mean having or showing mental keenness. Intelligent usually implies the ability to cope with new problems and to use the power of reasoning and inference effectively: The intelligent math students excelled in calculus.
Bright implies quickness or ease in learning: The bright child learned the alphabet quickly.
Brilliant suggests unusually impressive mental acuteness: "The dullard's envy of brilliant men is always assuaged by the suspicion that they will come to a bad end" (Max Beerbohm).
Knowing implies the possession of knowledge, information, or understanding: Knowing collectors bought all the auctioned paintings.
Quick-witted suggests mental alertness and prompt response: The quick-witted emergency medical staff averted a tragedy.
Smart refers to quick intelligence and often a ready capability for taking care of one's own interests: Smart lawyers can effectively manipulate juries.
Intellectual implies the capacity to grasp difficult or abstract concepts: The former professor was the more intellectual candidate.

The problem that every word has is that it almost always has five different definitions, and you happen to use the definition that suits you. Does every damn thing have to turn into semantic arguements? So yes, it means something different than knowledge, but it also means knowledge.

But like I said earlier...would you call an uneducated intellectual person genius?

Bah but i'm highjacking this thread. Just forget me and my arguements over semantics.

Lets move on to what the OP really means to ask.


Do you guys ever notice how there are so many god damn dumb ass people in the world?

Yes. Every day.

When I was in highschool, I had a similar opinion of the people around me.

I realized though that what I was experiencing wasn't genius necessarily, and was more like narcissism. If you feel like you are smarter than everyone else, then you are most likely simply blind to your own short comings and are isolated enough from the general population to be missing out on their strengths. Chances are, you don't even perceive the things that they are good at as strengths at all, since your narrow world view only allows you to value the things that you enjoy and the qualities that you possess. You may also wonder why no one likes you and have the (paranoid) suspicion that it must be because they are all jealous of you.

Once you grow up and find out that other people that you perceive as less intelligent are fully capable of being successful, you may start to realize that you aren't as far ahead of the curve as you thought. If you want to get a jump on self growth, you should probably try to humble yourself and attempt to connect with other people on a more human level.

Just a question; do you think being a gamer helps or hurts your intelligence?

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

When I was in highschool, I had a similar opinion of the people around me.

I realized though that what I was experiencing wasn't genius necessarily, and was more like narcissism. If you feel like you are smarter than everyone else, then you are most likely simply blind to your own short comings and are isolated enough from the general population to be missing out on their strengths. Chances are, you don't even perceive the things that they are good at as strengths at all, since your narrow world view only allows you to value the things that you enjoy and the qualities that you possess. You may also wonder why no one likes you and have the (paranoid) suspicion that it must be because they are all jealous of you.

Once you grow up and find out that other people that you perceive as less intelligent are fully capable of being successful, you may start to realize that you aren't as far ahead of the curve as you thought. If you want to get a jump on self growth, you should probably try to humble yourself and attempt to connect with other people on a more human level.

Just a question; do you think being a gamer helps or hurts your intelligence?

I agree with this. I have been called a genius, and have called myself one many a time, but I really don't feel that I am. I'm just a little more perceptive than most, and retain information well. I'm too much of the hippie, love everyone, we're all in the same boat type of dude to be make distinctions like "I am smarter than you." I call people stupid all the time yeah, and have those thoughts, but I try to push them away. You can overcome your socialization, but never abandon it.

Anyhow, to answer the gamer question: I think it helps. Depending on the game you can hone reading skills, problem solving skills, hand eye, reaction, and a range of skills. I assume you mean video games, but I wouldn't use the term gamer as only applying to those who play video games. Being into board games, cards, sports, or any game is gaming, and of course activities that stimulate you will help your brain develop. It just depends on how much you put into an activity, how invested you become in it, and in what way.

Originally Posted by zekobu

And cannabisman i didnt say friends cause i dont like most kids my age.

Yeah, again, I think this is more to do with you not fitting in. It's a common defense of the less popular to comfort themselves with the idea that they are geniuses who aren't understood by their peers.

I could be wrong, but I think this is more at the heart of why you think you're a genius.

This thread turned out to be a good read. Thanks for the back and forth.
In my humble opinion a true "genius" is able to adapt to any particular situation and use his/her intellect to solve problems, and see things from every possible angle to formulate an end product. No matter the field, they are capable of applying themselves to the fullest extent of the human intellect.
That being said, there are very few true geniuses in the world. Highly intellegent people who put all their effort into a defined field for the better of mankind - lots, but not enough.
As far as videogames go, it all depends on the person playing them. One can certainly learn new things, improve hand-eye coordination as well as reasoning skills, but its all about the particular gamer's mind and how they respond to things.
*exhale*

Intellect is judged by a person's processes used in order to solve a problem.

The more efficient the processes are, the more intellectual.

Efficiency is evaluated through speed and accuracy in relation to the problem.

This is why IQ tests are time based, and contain a broad array of questions instead of just numerical equations.

All problems can be solved numerically though - as everything can. Though the processes triggered by the different questions are vast and some may be faster, and some slower.

Therefore, the most adaptive processes pave way for the highest intelligence quotas.

'Dyslexia' is very curable through the teaching of different processes. From complex repetitive (and often useless) laborious drill-teaching, to a simple physical eye pattern, which helps the person in accessing alternative parts of the brain.
Such is a example of how processes don't have to be complex to be effective.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Yeah, again, I think this is more to do with you not fitting in. It's a common defense of the less popular to comfort themselves with the idea that they are geniuses who aren't understood by their peers.

I could be wrong, but I think this is more at the heart of why you think you're a genius.

Ah but what if you do not fit in and at the ame time are recognized as a 'genius' by your peers?

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Ah but what if you do not fit in and at the ame time are recognized as a 'genius' by your peers?

Being deemed a genius is relative to IQ, not popularity.

Yes, there is quite a difference between genius and misunderstood. Some folks confuse one for the other far too often, I'm afraid...

Er... What?

I mean if lots of people told you you were a 'genius'.

Are they geniuses themselves, or "excellent judges of character"?

An IQ of 136 or higher deems a person genius. A polymath, is someone who 'excels' in any given (divided) form, and strives to continue to 'excel'. ie. art, literature, math, etc.

Oh I see.

*Goes to take an IQ test*

Online doesn't count.

Did I say it was online?

I assumed you don't have one next to you with a stop-watch, yes.

And I don't.

Which is why I said I was "going to go take one".