I before E, except after C

[capoopy]

weird leisure caffeine vein their height What the hell happened here???

[Catbus]

I always hated that rule. I don't even think it deserves to be called a rule.

[capoopy]

yea, even though it does apply in most words, there are alot of exceptions, and it can get confusing. I've spelled it "wierd" for years.

[spockman]

Yeah... Especially since most of the exceptions don't come after C.

[Ynot]

full rhyme If the sound is "ee", it's I before E, except after C caffeine still fails, but hey

[ninja9578]

I always heard: "i before e except after c and for the way a like in neighbour and weigh." Caffeine can kiss my ass, I'm going to spell it caffiene from now on out of spite

[capoopy]

O.O I never knew there was a part before that but whoever made up caffeine didnt follow the rules and weird still doesnt work

[Marvo]

In german it's exactly the opposite, aka logical.

[IZ]

English is one of the languages that makes up the rules as it goes. Heck even pronunciation of words changes from decades.

[JET73L]

Even with all of the additions to the rule that exculde ":after C," "when sounding like A," etc, it turns out that 30% of the time it's wrong. Somwhere in the 30% range. Less than 38%.

[capoopy]

Jets got the math down to the percent lol

[JET73L]

Some college did a study based on words still in common use from several unabridged dictionaries. Bah, I say, for calling these useless mnemonics rules.

[Euthanatos]

In german it's exactly the opposite, aka logical. Also, German does not violate its own rules, ever. Violation of rules in the English language is the standard, not the exception.

[Original Poster]

If any word could be irregular, it would be "weird" Good collection though, I remember trying to find all the words that failed to follow the rule and show them to my teacher but she was just like, "This is english, not math."

[capoopy]

If any word could be irregular, it would be "weird" Good collection though, I remember trying to find all the words that failed to follow the rule and show them to my teacher but she was just like, "This is english, not math." Ugh I would slap that teacher for being so stupid

[hungrymanz]

If you guys were geniuses like me you wouldn't be having spelling problems.

[capoopy]

[Marvo]

Also, German does not violate its own rules, ever. Violation of rules in the English language is the standard, not the exception. Vase.

[Black_Eagle]

My English teachers always taught me those rules but also taught that some words were "rulebreakers". What a load of crap.

[Marvo]

If you think English is annoying in that regard, Danish is gonna make your brains bleed. Basically most verbs go like this; Spis - Spiser - Spiste Eat - Eating - Ate However, there are lots of irregular words, like gå. Gå means walk. Gå - Går - Gik Walk - Walking - Walked The list goes on an on, and it's about hard-bent word and stuff. Lægge - Lægger - Lagde (put/lay) Ligge - Ligger - Lå (lie as in lying in the bed) It also gets funny with nouns, because just like german, they have different starts, though a bit simplified. There's absolutely no system however. It basically is that in front of nouns, you got et/en as a/an, but since there's no system, it's a matter of you knowing all of them, just like German with their maskuline, feminine and neutrum. Whether it's et or en also says something about if you're using det or den (the danish equivalent of the) and how the noun is bent in pluralis and whatnot. For instance, house. House - Houses - The house - The houses In danish it's funnier! Et hus - Huse - Huset () - Husene However, 'The house' could also just be 'det hus', however it cannot be used in an equally broad range of contexts, which is why so many people find danish difficult to learn. Then there's the entire deal with pronouncination, I'm not even gonna get in on that. The only good thing about it, is that we are able to make correct English pronounciation, unlike Germans and French. Oh and numbers. Et = 1 En = 1 To = 2 Tre = 3 (sounds almost completely like træ, which means tree) Fire = 4 Fem = 5 Seks = 6 Syv = 7 Otte = 8 Ni = 9 Ti = 10 That's rather simple, however when you go into double digits, it's hard if you want to be completely correct when talking. 20 = tyve (pluralis of tyv which is "thief" in english) 30 = Tredive 40 = Fyrre OR if you want to be correct, fyrretyvende 50 = Halvtreds OR halvtredsindstyvende 60 = Tres OR tresindstyvende 70 = Halvfjerds OR halvfjerdsindstyvende 80 = Firs OR firsindstyvende 90 = Halvfems OR halvfremsindtyvende 100 = Hundrede OR ethundrede. So Ethundredeogseksoghalvfemsindstyvende is 196. It's absolutely insane. Oh and also: Million = Million Milliard = Billion Billion = Trillion Billiard = Kvadrillion Trillion = Quintillion Trilliard = Sextillion Quadrillion = Septillion We use scientifically correct terms for high-amount numbers Danish edit: Found this on uncyclopedia about danish numbers 100 = Halvfjerdsihalvtredsintyvendepotensmedflødeog kogtekartoflerhakkebøffyldetmedgufogetlilleki rsebærpåtop Translates into Seventy in fiftieth potense with cream and boiled potatoes beaf filled with candy and a little cherry on top. 90 = Nidtendusinhalvsnesgrossfyrrefemtedelssnesdeletp&# 229;femogtyve Nineteen dozen half score gross fourty over five score divided by twentyfive.

[capoopy]

Gah! Im scared of danish now lol Which is why I take spanish where 196 is ciento noventa y seis XD

[Dr. Frank-N-Furter]

caffe is the italian word for coffee ine is a suffix used to show the base word is only a relation to what the full word is. so Caffeine is a substance that is related to coffee. Aldo -ine is a suffix used to show that the chemical is an alkaline that contains nitrogen, such as caffeine.

[capoopy]

Well, caffeine is down, anyone up for weird or leisure? But then again, british ppl pronounce leisure differen than english so perhaps theres an exception

[Xei]

WHAT ABOUT SCIENCE. Seriously I always thought this rule was fucked up.

[capoopy]

WHAT ABOUT SCIENCE. Seriously I always thought this rule was fucked up. your right