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      i still don't know if its real what i see are my eyes open :s
      i have had times were i thought i was moving but it was like quicksand pulling at me i was tangled up in my covers struggling to move like a force holding me back into bed, which to day i wonder if it really happened

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      I have always slept with my eyes open to. But i can't ever remember seeing anything??.. I find it strange because if i try to leave my eyes open in the waking state they hurt&I have to blink, So i really don't no how i do it?. I would think my eyes would dry up or something lol?.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Artixknight View Post
      or when this one zombie/ghost girl was standing next to me and screaming. It was almost amusing;
      haha it's like your mind is trying to scare you but you just found it to be amusing.

      and i like your avatar Out of the Blue


      anyway, when i experience sleep paralysis, my eyes seem to be open. Not sure whether to call them hallucinations or not. This one time I did have sleep paralysis, i was in my room and some guy just walked in and sat on my bed. I asked my family if they had came in and they said they didnt.

      my girlfriend has had sleep paralysis and hallucinated that she was on an operating table be experimented by aliens. the only problem was that her cat was laying on her. she still jokes that she had an encounter with aliens but some people out there really believe they have been abducted by aliens being paralyzed and swear it wasn't sleep paralysis (<<<crazy...)

      there maybe an article that studied sleep paralysis that might mention whether or not the eyes were open. I think they can be because i believe that i have.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Paigesaddiction View Post
      No they never hurt?. I never even knew i did it till my mum said when i was about 6 years old. & i have done it ever since apparently?. I find it strange & Weird .. ♥
      I thought that your eyes would hurt from having them open for 8 hours or so, but if not, you must be blinking. And in REM you're probably moving them all the time, wow that must look really weird Did your mum tell you anything about you about it?

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      In SP eyes must normally be closed... I always see my room during SP but it's not exactly my room. And I see my body doing strange things, like shaking, surely it's not my physical body! Besides, if you remember having closed your eyes before SP, there's nothing to think about.

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      Hmmm so about half the people believe they're eyes are open [during SP] and the other half believe it's all in their head... Well, in my experience, I always sleep with a mask on, always. On two different SP occasions I was on my side, paralyzed, heart beating madly, vibrations and I could see a little of my bed and my walls. It looked very real, but I had my mask on. So, I feel that it probably is all in our head, but I'm curious, has anyone else had this, while having a mask on or were under their covers but still saw the room around them?

      Also, Paige, I too have been told I sleep with my eyes open. However, its not like they are open 8 hours a night. And I'm sure your mom hasn't sat up and watched your sleep all night. Chances are your like me and your eyes never truly close. My siblings would say they would wake up in a room with me and my eyes would be open and then half open and then shake (its like my eye lids are too light or something?!)... Its weird, that’s why I always have to wear a mask because the light annoys me, you must be a heavy sleeper

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      You people are so interesting, I wish I could watch you sleep

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      You people are so interesting, I wish I could watch you sleep

      Maybe you should get into sleep medicine. I plan on getting into the psychology field of sleep

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      Medicine doesn't sound exciting at all... Dealing with disorders, ugh! I don't want to be near sick people. You have to have a vocation for such things.

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      they say there is no cure for SP.
      my dad said he had it when he was younger but does not now
      i have been in one and imagined there was a big white ghostly blob image at the door, and once heard a voice like a presidents speech voice saying "CRAZY"
      lol some very weird experiences indeed i had two encounters of SP last night fun fun, they do not seem to do many programs on this just mainly sleep walking.

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      Has anyone deliberately tried to open their real eyes from a lucid and experience SP?

      Is it that easy?
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      I always think of sleep paralysis like a false awakening. On many occasions, I have had a clear view of my room in sleep paralysis, then "woken up" from it and realized I was hallucinating the whole thing. It is surprising to suddenly open your eyes when you already thought your eyes were open. Especially when you are seeing a fully lit room in your hallucination, then you open your eyes to a dark room. Backwards!

      I'm not saying sleeping with your eyes open is impossible, just that it is probably not the norm. I've seen my girlfriend and some roommates sleep with their eyes open. They are not fully open, just half-closed in a relaxed way.

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      One of the cool things about SP is that people in it can look around and report accurately about what is going on in the room around them, what they see and hear. Even with the hallucinations.

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      That makes sense, Shift. I never trust what I see during SP, because it seems hallucinations are layered on top of my actual vision. The blind spot hallucination comes to mind as the simplest example. Scary to think how we are so easily fooled.

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      I don't really think Sleep Paralysis is a real sleep disorder. I see it more as a glitch. Something that's not suppose to happen but does.

      I think if it was a real disorder, it would interfere with your life. People with Rem Behavior Disorder (RBD) might sit up throwing fists at thin air until this person (likely male) accidentally hits their bed-mate.

      People with Sleep Apnea have difficulty breathing regularly while sleeping.

      Sleep paralysis is just when the sleeper is conciously alert and aware of the state they are in. It doesn't exactly interefere with their life. It's just something that happens accidentally (except for us lucid dreamers).

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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidspark64 View Post
      I don't really think Sleep Paralysis is a real sleep disorder. I see it more as a glitch. Something that's not suppose to happen but does.

      I think if it was a real disorder, it would interfere with your life. People with Rem Behavior Disorder (RBD) might sit up throwing fists at thin air until this person (likely male) accidentally hits their bed-mate.

      People with Sleep Apnea have difficulty breathing regularly while sleeping.

      Sleep paralysis is just when the sleeper is conciously alert and aware of the state they are in. It doesn't exactly interefere with their life. It's just something that happens accidentally (except for us lucid dreamers).
      Have you even suffered from Sleep paralysis without knowing what it is?

      I have, for years I went through SP every night. And guess what... it did interfere with my life.
      I was so scared of going to sleep that I would stay up all night trying to keep myself awake, I would then go to school half asleep and do terrible in lessons. The lack of sleep built up over a long period of time and I ended up a walking zombie. My parents thought I was depressed and when I tried explaining to them what was happening during the night they didn't believe me.

      There are thousands of people that suffer like this in silence. SP is a sleep disorder... hands down.

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      http://www.dreaminglucid.com/articlejc.html

      Interview On SP and Lucid Dreaming by an SP Scientist. Worth a read.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mrdeano View Post
      My parents thought I was depressed and when I tried explaining to them what was happening during the night they didn't believe me.
      Horrible!

      There are thousands of people that suffer like this in silence. SP is a sleep disorder... hands down.
      I heard that it's connected to disorders like narcolepsy and is not a disorder on its own... Maybe you had\have some neurological condition?

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      Not so long ago I came across a religious forum dedicated to SP.
      The poor bastards actually thought they were being attacked by demons.
      The general concensus was that sleeping with a bible under your pillow was the best move.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      I heard that it's connected to disorders like narcolepsy and is not a disorder on its own... Maybe you had\have some neurological condition?
      Don't go crazy now. It's called Isolated Sleep Paralysis.

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      I see. That's good for everybody who suffers from SP.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mrdeano View Post
      Have you even suffered from Sleep paralysis without knowing what it is?

      I have, for years I went through SP every night. And guess what... it did interfere with my life.
      I was so scared of going to sleep that I would stay up all night trying to keep myself awake, I would then go to school half asleep and do terrible in lessons. The lack of sleep built up over a long period of time and I ended up a walking zombie. My parents thought I was depressed and when I tried explaining to them what was happening during the night they didn't believe me.

      There are thousands of people that suffer like this in silence. SP is a sleep disorder... hands down.
      wow man i'm sorry... I have had sleep paralysis. I get it atleast once a month but I didn't think that it was such a big deal. this is why i said "i don't think..."

      it seems to be a sure problem for this lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omzsLqbgRaU but i figured since it is called "Sleep paralysis" that you are still sleeping even though you are in a state of waking consciousness.

      again i'm sorry.

      by the way I just read about narcolepsy. Sleep paralysis is a symptom, but it is only a symptom and doesn't really explain you having it every night unless you have attacks of intense sleepiness during the day, then i'd see a doctor which he'll probably run some tests and my guess would be narcolepsy
      Last edited by lucidspark64; 06-15-2009 at 06:27 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidspark64 View Post
      by the way I just read about narcolepsy. Sleep paralysis is a symptom, but it is only a symptom and doesn't really explain you having it every night unless you have attacks of intense sleepiness during the day, then i'd see a doctor which he'll probably run some tests and my guess would be narcolepsy
      If his problem was narcolepsy he'd know it, it's hard to miss!

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      well i imagine some people don't know what it is until they get a diagnosis. sleep attacks for narcoleptics usually occur when they experience some arousal in emotion like excitement or some kind of thrill.

      this person says he was at one point like a zombie. i can't imagine he would be getting these higher emotions so often. I would still see a doctor because narcolepsy can be mild like just excessive sleep or taking too many naps. my girlfriends dog sleeps like 20 out of 24 hours of the day (exageration) but i dont wanna say she has this disorder because she's overweight and old (the dog ofcourse).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      At what point do you stop getting input from your actual eyeballs? I know it is not unheard of for people to sleep with their eyes open, but not actually see anything in front of their eyes. I also have had lucid dreams where I know my eyes are slightly open, and can see images from my mind overlapped onto images from my physical eyes. I don't think it is so simple as "eyes open or eyes closed." I think there is more to it.
      I remember once i was sleeping on my couch and at a given time i noticed that i was dreaming with my eyes partially open and directed on my legs and it was weird because i could see images pass on my legs as if it was movie o_O....but still im pretty sure that everytime i have sp my eyes are open or at least my mind can just recreate the exact environement i have around me while im sleeping...ummm
      “You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, 'Why not?'” - George Bernard Shaw.

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