Thread: Stubborn about java

While at school in my digital art class I notice some guy doing something with coding, I kindly mention something about python I say "If you are interested in coding then perhaps you could try python" and he just got all defensive saying something along the lines like "python isn't a real programming language, its just some easy mode" I agree python is simple but how can he just blow it off as nothing important. I believe he was working with java. I then say "But it is a very easy language to learn for beginners" he says "no it isn't real coding" I just stopped talking to him at that point because I don't think he was willing to accept that python is also a decent language. Keep in mind that I never said anything bad about java to him, just suggested that he check out python.
I don't hate java, It's been around for a long time and its a useful language to learn. So post your opinions here if you want, I just wanted to get it off my chest.

WOAH, he's an idiot, python is extremely handy to know, maybe not in his case but it's not just a useless coding language. If he could have seen the things I scripted into blender using python I think he would have changed his mind .

Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.

Sounds like you have an elitist on your hands.

Originally Posted by Supernova

Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.

Sounds like you have an elitist on your hands.

Programming software is not the same as programming languages.

Python is great for quick solutions, java is good for cross platform applications. It's all about using the right tool for the right job.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Programming software is not the same as programming languages.

The point is the "real programmers" part.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Programming software is not the same as programming languages.

I know that, I'm just making a comparison. What khh said.

Python is simple but surprisingly powerful and can handle low-level stuff (better than Java I think, but not sure since it's been a while). If the program is simple enough, you might be able to write it with python in 6 lines, while in Java it might take 25. So it's far superior in writing tiny programs imo.

He probably just thinks it isn't a real language because its basics are so easy and simple, and he likes to think that 'real' programming like that which he does is more complicated and requires intelligence to learn. It's an ego boost. I've heard some tenacious C++ or C programmers make the same claim about Java, that it's hardly a real language, because it's so high level and 'simple' compared to C.

Originally Posted by Dianeva

Python is simple but surprisingly powerful and can handle low-level stuff (better than Java I think, but not sure since it's been a while). If the program is simple enough, you might be able to write it with python in 6 lines, while in Java it might take 25. So it's far superior in writing tiny programs imo.

He probably just thinks it isn't a real language because its basics are so easy and simple, and he likes to think that 'real' programming like that which he does is more complicated and requires intelligence to learn. It's an ego boost. I've heard some tenacious C++ or C programmers make the same claim about Java, that it's hardly a real language, because it's so high level and 'simple' compared to C.

Yeah, thats what I thought too. He thinks since python is so easy to use compared to java he blows it off like python is not a good language. It's like what khh said, using the right tool for the right job. Java is probably better than python in certain aspects and vice versa.