Thread: Why no Live CD?

1)
chances are you have a corrupted ISO CD image

When booting the LiveCD, use the "Check this CD for defects" option, and see if it's ok - but I recommend re-downloading it anyway

Also, try burning the CD at a lower speed
Cheap CD-R's do not play well when burned at high speeds - drop down to 4x
also, if the CD-R's have been improperly stored (like next to a radiator or something) this can severely affect them
optical media is extrememly fragile, especially recordable ones
If all else fails, get some different discs

2)
As for the wireless, that's easy
I'm 99% sure that your wireless card is natively supported (just from googling the model number you gave)
however, you will need to get the right drivers for it
The drivers are probably not built-in to Linux
it's a broadcom card, and they, like Nvidia, haven't opensourced their drivers, so they're not built-in to Linux - you will need their proprietary drivers

You will need to connect via wired ethernet
then goto System > Admin > Hardware Drivers
at which point you can download the restricted driver for your wireless, and install them

1) Well, I would do the check, but the problem is that the CD won't even load. I turn it on, it says Sony, goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor, and says "Operating System not found." And the ISO can't be corrupted, considering I just downloaded Fedora. Maybe the burning program I am using isn't comaptible with my Vaio? It's Roxio CD creator. I'll try powerISO instead. I have but one CD left...lol.

2) Alright, thank the nonexistent Lord that Xbox 360 came with an ethernet cable...

Thanks for the help man. Oh, and do you recommend Ubuntu or Fedora?

EDIT: It froze at 15% again.

hang on
I'm slightly confused

You say you can't get to the LiveCD menu?

Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx

I turn it on, it says Sony, goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor, and says "Operating System not found."

But then you say

Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx

EDIT: It froze at 15% again.

If you can't even boot the LiveCD, then what exactly is freezing at 15% ??

When you finish burning the disc, verify it. That will let you know if the disc itself is corrupt, then if that works, try mounting it from the disc without booting. If it doesn't mount, then it's corrupt.

Originally Posted by Ynot

hang on
I'm slightly confused

You say you can't get to the LiveCD menu?

I can't get there on the fresh CDs.

But then you say


If you can't even boot the LiveCD, then what exactly is freezing at 15% ??
That's the one that sort of works.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

When you finish burning the disc, verify it. That will let you know if the disc itself is corrupt, then if that works, try mounting it from the disc without booting. If it doesn't mount, then it's corrupt.
I'm burning it from a different computer. Currently there is no operating system at all on my laptop.

Just to clear things up:
CD1: Runs Ubuntu 8.10, Does not get past LiveCD Menu. (File I/O error) The CD is red.
CD2: Runs Ubuntu 7.10, CD is a 700 MB Maxell, Gets into GNOME, won't finish installer.
CD3: Runs Fedora 10, CD is White, 700 MB, Can't be corrupted, it's a fresh download from the Fedora Site.
CD3-6: Do not load at all, but should work. Maybe the ISO is corrupted?

Windows CD: Who gives a shit. But, my sources are getting me an official Windows CD to install so i have SOMETHING. Is there a way to install Linux from within Windows? The CD will come Monday (US East Coast Time).

well, burn the ISO at a lower speed
(sounds like it's not writing properly)

All right then. It's also peculiar that all of the broken CDs were written with that one program...I'll try PowerISO at a low speed, and post results.

Re: Ubuntu or Fedora

both are top-notch distros
both are cutting-edge (Fedora slightly more so)

personally, I prefer Debian based distros (I'm more comfortable with them - I know where things are, and I prefer Apt over RPM as a package manager) - but this is me personally

Try them both, they've both got pros & cons

Ubuntu

Debian based
Debian do a lot of things "right" in my books
this is carried over into Ubuntu

Large user base
simple google searches always pull up Ubuntu geared solutions to any problems

Polish, and finishing touches
Canonical do a great job of smoothing certain rough corners
As above, their hardware drivers system, called Jockey, is a prime example - nice GUI interface for installing out-of-kernel drivers

Fedora

Fedora is RedHat's test-bed for future RHEL releases
this is both a pro and a con

RedHat is responsible for a large (large) proportion of Linux advances and new technology (RedHat is responsible for something like 25-30% of all Linux development)

More enterprise orientated than desktop
(due to RHEL being an enterprise distro, a lot of the new stuff is enterprise related - may not be all that useful for desktop users)

Originally Posted by Ynot

1)
2)
As for the wireless, that's easy
I'm 99% sure that your wireless card is natively supported (just from googling the model number you gave)
however, you will need to get the right drivers for it
The drivers are probably not built-in to Linux
it's a broadcom card, and they, like Nvidia, haven't opensourced their drivers, so they're not built-in to Linux - you will need their proprietary drivers

You will need to connect via wired ethernet
then goto System > Admin > Hardware Drivers
at which point you can download the restricted driver for your wireless, and install them

So, I don't have an ethernet port, but I have a long telephone wire, a telephone jack, and a telephone port. Do I need to pay to get the internet out of that? (I have teh Optimum Online)

could you post the output of:

Code:

lspci

&

Code:

ifconfig

make sure you put them in [code][/code] tags

I can't right now. I'll get it as soon as I can though.

Code:

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI Bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA Bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE Interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev b8)
02:05.1 Firewire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C551 IEEE 1394 Controller
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.12b/g Wireless LAN

ifconfig

Code:

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:46:9a:18:b0
            UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
            RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
            TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
            collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  Tx bytes:0 (0.0 B)
lo          Link encap:Local Loopback
            inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
            inet6 addr: ::1/128  Scope:Host
            UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
            RX packets:292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
            TX packets:292 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
            collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
            RX bytes:18960 (18.9 KB)  TX bytes:18960  (18.9 KB)

There ya' go, buddy. You using it to find a driver, or are you programming one?

I thought so,
you do have Ethernet

First entry is your ethernet port
Second is your wireless

Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx

Code:

02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.12b/g Wireless LAN

(It'd be pretty stupid for a laptop not to have wired ethernet when it's wireless is provided by a manufacturer that doesn't release it's wireless driver's code - you would have no way to download your proprietary wireless drivers....)

And your ethernet is all setup and waiting to be used

Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx

Code:

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:46:9a:18:b0
            UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
            RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
            TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
            collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  Tx bytes:0 (0.0 B)

That "Phone socket" you mentioned is not a phone socket
but your ethernet port

As before,

Originally Posted by Ynot

You will need to connect via wired ethernet
then goto System > Admin > Hardware Drivers
at which point you can download the restricted driver for your wireless, and install them

Would I have to pay to hook it up? And what do i do, sick my phone cable into the wall and into my computer, and go to System > Admin > Hardware Drivers, or do I have to set something up and pay for the Dial-Up?