Thread: Firefox...Broken?

Originally Posted by Ynot

HA!
sorry

Check FF 3.5
it's like lightning (got various JS refinements nabbed from chrome)

Opera's always going to be second best to FF, at least in my view, due to it's closed nature
but anyhow

Closed nature? Do you actually care if something is open source or not?

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

Closed nature? Do you actually care if something is open source or not?

Yes

Originally Posted by Ynot

Yes

Do you actually do anything with the source? If not, there's no reason to think FOSS just means it's better. FireFox isn't actually open source, just it's JS engine. Even then, only parts of it are open source.

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

Do you actually do anything with the source? If not, there's no reason to think FOSS just means it's better.

No (or very (very) rarely - I have on a few occasions patched open source wireless drivers to allow packet injections)

Without wanting to sound condescending,
If you have to ask why I prefer open source, then you're not going to understand

Open source means peer review

Open source means the users of the software, not the authors, dictate the direction of a project
(ability to fork)

Open source means open discussion among developers and users
Actual debates on the features and direction of a project
(oh the horror, you can actually have a say in what happens)

Accurate bug tracking
Not being fobbed off - if there's a problem, it's documented, reviewed, AND FIXED out in the open

Etc. Etc. Etc

Yes, Open source means a hell of a lot to me

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

FireFox isn't actually open source, just it's JS engine. Even then, only parts of it are open source.

bollocks

All Firefox code is open source
the only thing that's subject to copyright restrictions is the artwork

Show me the entire source code, then. Link me to it. All I've seen are bits and pieces.


Also, if the proprietary makers of Opera are doing the right thing, why does it matter if the users are doing it or not? Opera has a pretty good community going on in their forums, and if I wanted to suggest something, I could go there, and get the same result, if enough people want it.

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.or...source.tar.bz2

Originally Posted by Ynot

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.or...source.tar.bz2

I guess I was wrong, then. I've only seen the JS engine before. Either way, I'm not doing anything with it, so I don't care. There really isn't a difference between proprietary and FOSS to the end user, unless you can modify the source.