WILD attempt.

**Tripoli** · 01-18-2011 12:30 AM

I just attempted WILD, so I was laying in my bed for about 28 minutes but I never transitioned to a LD or a hypanogolic hullusination.

I didn't move an inch but for some reason I felt like my eyes were shaking alot, but I myself wasn't moving them. When I decided to give up and move I felt very weak from not moving.

I tried to concentrate on a place, a scene or a adventure but nothing came to fruitation.
Am I doing something wrong? Or am I forgetting something?

**Rao** · 01-20-2011 09:48 PM

This is how I WILD and it gives me success about 90 percent of the time.

I stretch my core muscles to help me relax, put on some binaural beats on my stereo headphones, and lay down on my back, arms to the side, with a shirt covering my eyes (unless it's night time of course).

Then I simply meditate and try to think of absolutely nothing. I do this for about 30 minutes until I start to feel very drowsy and sleep begins to take over.

As soon as that happens, I take off the headphones, lay on my side and let thoughts become more and more vivid. It seems the 30 minutes of mediation beforehand really makes it easier for the mind to take my thoughts and turn them into dreams. As soon as I begin to truly become indulged into a very light dream (non lucid at this point) The dream quickly ends and my awareness shoots back to me, except this time, I have acheived SP.

Hope this helps b/c I too became very frustrated in my WILD attempts when I could not find any results.

**Tripoli** · 01-20-2011 09:59 PM

Ok thanks. I also tried last night and at one point maybe 10 - 20 minutes in I could feel my legs getting a little heavier. I decided that I probably shouldn't be trying no sleep WILD as a beginner, but when I tried to move them the would move slightly but it's like I was fighting something. Then I could actually hear the bending in my stiff knee joints. I as then able to finally turn over.

I was really hoping the heaviness would continue spreading but I't just stayed at my legs for about 5 minutes till I gave up.

**AlmightyShizzle** · 01-20-2011 10:14 PM

"I decided that I probably shouldn't be trying no sleep WILD as a beginner"

There lies part of your mistake. Even expert WILDers almost always WILD after 5-8 hours of sleep because your first REM cycle doesn't start until about 90 minutes after you fall asleep (that's an hour and a half laying there...). The first period is very short anyways, and the dream quality would probably be crap. Really, it would make your life so much easier to just set an alarm/autosuggestion to wake up after 6 hrs of sleep, when you are ready to go right back into REM. WBTB WILD is always better than trying before sleep, and there's really no reason to try the latter.

**Tripoli** · 01-20-2011 10:38 PM

Yea. It's also a real moral bruiser trying it with no sleep and laying there for 67 minutes and nothing happens. Hopefully I will be able to find something that will wake me up early without disrupting my family.