Fail at Sleep Paralyze

**storm1508** · 12-19-2011 03:29 PM

hey, im new to Luci Dream
im interesting in WILD
ive gotten many Sleep Paralyze but i havent successfully entered Lucid Dream
every time when i felt like the Sleep Paralyze stopped and i tried to open my eyes and i found my room

okay, maybe it's hard to understand since im not too good at English
so, im doing WILD, a minutes later i get Sleep Paralyze, whenever the shakes stop and i open my eyes, i dont get into Lucid Dream

anyone mind to help me?

**Rudedudeowns** · 12-19-2011 07:20 PM

Try to visualize, visualize a place where you would like to be and if everything goes well you should enter a dream.

**storm1508** · 12-20-2011 02:39 AM

thank you for your reply
ive ever tried to visualize the place where i want to be
i visualize a beach
im in SP, not too long, the SP stop, im still closing my eyes but i can feel the sand texture, when i open my eyes, i find my room
it's a big problem for me

**Texture** · 12-20-2011 06:52 AM

You don't necessarily have to open your eyes to enter a dream. If you're concentrating on your body, you will almost NEVER make it into a dream, unless it's like FILD or something. For me it's the realization all senses gone-heat, texture of my bed, all that

**storm1508** · 12-20-2011 07:23 AM

oh man...!!
thanks Texture, i know the point of my mistakes
so, as my SP has stopped, i dont need to open my eyes
i just need to wait till a scenery appeared and im ready to play with my dream world
am i right?

**Texture** · 12-21-2011 01:12 AM

well sometimes. I have CRAZY ways of entering dreams, but generally you're kinda not paying attention to anything. Sometimes im about to drift off and i kinda snap out of it to see stars flying in front of my eyes. Generally the transition happens when you aren't thinking about it. (At least for me)
A BIG thing that helped me is- getting to sleep paralysis isn't about being aware/getting excited, or even attempting to enter. I find i relax best if I try to sleep, then catch myself before I fall too far. It's hard to explain, but you'll learn more by yourself, the more you try. That's what i did

Also check out Jeff's free falling wild technique, don't got a link to it tho

**storm1508** · 12-21-2011 09:44 AM

freefall technique is good but..
i prefer to mancon WILD technique
but it's no problem
we dont see the way we enter the dreamworld, it's all about controlling your dream
thanks for your help

**Bigpun** · 12-24-2011 09:34 AM

Don't think about ur physical body or that ur even living on ur body.

**Mzzkc** · 12-24-2011 01:32 PM

Assuming you're experiencing vibrations, this is a sign you've probably hit your first phase of N2 sleep. It's normal for them to subside (stop) as you pass into N3 sleep, but typically people experience a second N2 phase before REM and REM atonia sets in.

So, you can (but really shouldn't) expect vibrations to occur twice, with a short break in between, before you enter REM.

**adraw** · 12-31-2011 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Bigpun

Don't think about ur physical body or that ur even living on ur body.

There is one big truth about this. If you really want to experience lucid dream, you really shouldnt be concentrated on sleep paralysis itself, becouse if you percieve it it means that your attention is still oriented towards your physical body. If you want to transition into dream state, you should accept the fact that your dream body is in dreamworld, not in your bed, even though you dont feel it. You should allow yourself to move your focus into your fantasies instead of concentrating on your body getting numb.

In my opinion the road towards lucid dream over percieved sleep paralysis is simply unnecessary. You are filling your mind with thoughts about sleep paralysis itself, thus leaving no room for dream itself. In my opinion, that is why you might have problems with entering your dream. Your sleep paralysis might be your dream and you might not know it