Awake All Night Experiment - Official Method and Results

**12padams** · 02-16-2012 11:04 AM

Introduction: Awake all night is an experiment/method which I have "created myself". Technically I am not the sole creator of this method since it is very similar to Micheal Raduga's "Direct Technique" and is inspired by Nicholas Newport's Lucidology course on sleep paralysis. Many others from dream views have also inspired the creation of this experiment/technique. Its best described as a simple "WILD" (Wake Induced Lucid Dream) Technique.

The Method: Go to bed at your regular time, lie in a position which avoids strain on any muscles (have mouth slightly open) and stay awake without moving for the whole night.... It's called "awake all night experiment because that's exactly what you should plan to do. If you never get to sleep that's no problem... With that attitude your on your way to some interesting results!

The Problem: You will be plagued with urges to scratch, swallow and move. When I say "stay still" I mean keep every part of your body still (including your eyes).

The Result: First you will get memory impressions (Fragments of visual or audio data). Then you will get the windy/rushing noises which at first come and go then remain solid and increase in volume. Finally once the windy noise reaches its peak and stops simply use a separation technique such as rolling out and you will be in a lucid dream ready to completle your plan of action.

My personal Results: So far I have done this experiment a few times and I have had always had some interesting results (not lucid dreams but always something out of the ordinary and close conscious entry's.). Impatience and fear are the biggest obstacles when using this method and are both reasons why I have not entered a lucid dream using this technique. When I kept my mouth relaxed and open during the second experiment I slipped into an altered state double as fast. Keep in mind that any strain (open mouth or swallowing) tells your body to stay awake... You want it to fall asleep while keeping your mind awake. I do swallow occasionally but I try to keep my mind off swallowing since it does hinder the progress of this technique.

Important note: I use the word "enter the phase" to description the success of entering the dreamworld/lucid dream.

Experiment 1 - 23rd December 2011 (Length: About 1 hour): After lying down for a while the general body numbness and heaviness started to set in. Eventually I experienced a possible shift in awareness. I heard a weird popping noise and suddenly my nose was no longer blocked allowing me to breathe perfectly. My body also felt somewhat different but I am unable to remember the exact sensation. Instantly I thought that I had entered the phase yet I didn’t want to get up in case I broke my trance. Cautiously I opened my eyes and glanced at my clock though slit eyelids. My vision was out of focus causing the red numbers on my alarm clock to move around in circles. Since I saw two versions of my alarm clock in front of me swirling in and away from each other I believe my eyes where rolling around out of sync.
-Read the complete experiment results here: http://forum.obe4u.com/index.php?top...sg4495#msg4495

Experiment 2 -17th January 2012 (Length: 35 minutes): Without warning I suddenly heard a loud windy sucking sound blast into my ears which instantly caused me to freak out and sit up terrified in bed. My sudden movement felt disconnected causing a nauseous feeling in my head and a tingling feeling in my numb body. My surroundings appeared ghostly and were swirling around out of focus. Around my room I saw shadows swiftly moving around which triggered a sudden desire to perform a reality check.
-Read the complete experiment results here: http://forum.obe4u.com/index.php?top...sg4751#msg4751

Experiment 3 - 24th January 2012: Suddenly I regained consciousness during an involuntary rollover onto my back. “Dang it, I moved” I thought as I opened my eyes ready to give up. Upon opening my eyes I saw my own bedroom shimmering in a ghostly manner. “Wait a second… Wasn't I in my sister's room?” Over a period of two seconds the environment around me shook, became blurry and completely transformed to my sister’s room.
[i]-Read the complete experiment results here: http://forum.obe4u.com/index.php?top...sg4829#msg4829

Experiment 4 - 26th January 2012: the first real "awake all night" is going to occur on this day. I am going to have a sound go off every hour while I remain completely still for the whole night. This will be the most interesting experiment ever!
Edit: just pretend this last one never existed... Using machines to help me just caused insomnia... the results have been documented in my free eBook which you can read here: http://forum.obe4u.com/index.php?topic=842.0 but I don't recommend it!

Commenting: Try this technique out yourself and write down everything that happens once you either enter the phase or give up (Try not to give up). Also feel free to discuss your thoughts on people's experiences(including mine) or further questions relating to this technique.

**Ctharlhie** · 02-16-2012 01:26 PM

Is this supposed to be inductive to lucid dreaming, or self torture?

You're advocating lying in bed, perfectly still, not sleeping, the whole night? You may get results maybe 1 out of 5 nights, maybe. But that would be most likely from sleep debt, and there are better ways of achieving REM rebound. Trouble is that you're really fighting a losing battle if you want to go to bed and remain still expecting to magically enter REM. Your whole physiology is geared towards making you zonk out into unconscious sleep. If you've seen Lucidology 101 then you'll remember how he explains that your biochemistry is best set up for lucid dreaming in the early hours of the morning.
So this is a very extreme approach to WILDing, try it with 3-5 hours prior sleep.

That said, it reminds me of a technique I saw on a website that no longer exists that was called 'lucid dream priming', it involved going to bed 2 hours before your usual bedtime, waking up after 1-2 hours sleep, staying up a further 1-2 hours and then returning to bed and keeping completely still like your technique while remaining conscious through the use of a simple mantra. The author reported discovering this technique by accident in his teen years and said that he spontaneously entered sleep paralysis and experienced lucid dreams/OBEs. But the whole point of the exercise was to set up REM sleep before you attempt something like you're describing here.

**12padams** · 02-16-2012 01:52 PM

set up REM sleep before you attempt something like you're describing here.

This actually works best for me since I can actually remain still and awake when going to bed... Sadly I suffer a little insomnia...

I can't do wake back to bed at 4am with this experiment since last time I tried that I lay awake for 3 hours straight and it was hell... The only way I actually consciously enter sleep is when I do it before bed at the time most people zonk out like you say. This experiment has caused close lucidity for me especially on the 2nd one however my shock of the pre obe rushing noises made me flinch and stuff up my attempt. Sadly I no longer have time to do this experiment as I now go to college but it at least produced some fun results while it lasted as you can see...

The idea here is to see what happens when you try out this experiment. A wild is a possible side effect however I wanna see if people get similar results to me. If you find it difficult performing this experiment before bed then do it at 4am after some sleep... Main idea is to chose the best time for you. Post your results here and good luck

**ShadowOfSelf** · 02-21-2012 03:05 PM

I can't do wake back to bed at 4am with this experiment since last time I tried that I lay awake for 3 hours straight and it was hell...

Yet you want participants to stay awake all night without moving? lol

It's not impossible, but highly unlikely that one will get into a lucid dream by a WILD at the begining of the night, as one must have deep sleep with little to no REM for a few hours before getting into the dreaming states, which is why waking up after so many hours then performing a WILD, works.

I have had experiences similair to yours. By remaining aware whilst falling asleep, the body can go into sleep paralysis, but it wants to go to sleep, not dream, which is why usually, nothing much else happens.

If you never get to sleep that's no problem... With that attitude your on your way to some interesting results!

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Keep in mind that any strain (open mouth or swallowing) tells your body to stay awake... You want it to fall asleep while keeping your mind awake.

Lie in a position which avoids strain on any muscles (have mouth slightly open)

Lol?

Ok so it's a traditional WILD then, but at the beginning of the night, which is like 95% bound to fail.. ?

Sorry but I don't really see this as a technique, it sounds like torture.

**nina** · 02-21-2012 03:18 PM

Basically this is just attempting WILD when going to bed at night...which is the worst possible time to attempt a WILD. No offense, but I would never recommend this technique to anyone. I'm glad that it has worked for you though.

Also I'd like to state that you CAN have sleep paralysis that does not proceed a period of REM. So just because you might enter SP when you are falling asleep, does not mean you are going to magically skip through all the NREM (important, deep restorative slow wave sleep) and suddenly be in REM at that point in the night.

**Ctharlhie** · 02-21-2012 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by 12padams

This actually works best for me since I can actually remain still and awake when going to bed... Sadly I suffer a little insomnia...

I can't do wake back to bed at 4am with this experiment since last time I tried that I lay awake for 3 hours straight and it was hell... The only way I actually consciously enter sleep is when I do it before bed at the time most people zonk out like you say. This experiment has caused close lucidity for me especially on the 2nd one however my shock of the pre obe rushing noises made me flinch and stuff up my attempt. Sadly I no longer have time to do this experiment as I now go to college but it at least produced some fun results while it lasted as you can see...

The idea here is to see what happens when you try out this experiment. A wild is a possible side effect however I wanna see if people get similar results to me. If you find it difficult performing this experiment before bed then do it at 4am after some sleep... Main idea is to chose the best time for you. Post your results here and good luck

I think you've picked up some misconceptions (possibly from Lucidology?), but you seem to think that WILDing absolutely involve hours of lying awake in bed. I recommend you check out this tutorial by Mzzkc, as he says, with WBTB there's no need for a WILD to take longer than 15 minutes to enter a dream and in my experience of the WILDs I've had so far I've found that to be true. In fact I would say with practice you could WBTB and WILD every night without very noticeable effect in terms of sleep deprivation, as long as you went to bed early enough.

Keep in mind that any strain (open mouth or swallowing) tells your body to stay awake... You want it to fall asleep while keeping your mind awake.

Hm, no. Do you go to sleep every night without swallowing? Also, keeping your jaw closed requires muscle tension. Your body doesn't have anything to do with deciding when you fall asleep, sleep is a psychological process, you don't need bodily relaxation per se because you only really mental relaxation to fall asleep (hence why it's possible to successfully sleep in the most uncompromising positions). Swallowing has nothing to do with sleep (unless of course you mentally fixate on it enough for it to prevent mental relaxation). Don't do anything when you WILD that you wouldn't do when falling asleep normally.

This is why lucidology is such an awful series -_-...

**12padams** · 02-21-2012 08:46 PM

I recommend you check out this tutorial by Mzzkc, as he says, with WBTB there's no need for a WILD to take longer than 15 minutes to enter a dream and in my experience of the WILDs I've had so far I've found that to be true.

Wow thanks for the advice... Now I got 2 new chapters planned for my book. Trying out this wild method you have shown me for a few weeks and that singularity experience app. I just hope this works for me because naturally I am good at dild however I no longer have time to sit around for 2 hours a day (i used to have ultra good dream recall) writing my dreams due to college. Hopefully this wild you have shown me will work within 30 minutes.

This is why lucidology is such an awful series -_-...

I only really liked it because out of everything I have tried in my book it worked on the first attempt and 3rd attempt. After that I got insomnia however and had the stop using it.

If you never get to sleep that's no problem... With that attitude your on your way to some interesting results!

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Without this attitude I got less results... If your worried about no sleep then you will not have a relaxed enough mind to fall asleep.

Basically this is just attempting WILD when going to bed at night...which is the worst possible time to attempt a WILD. No offense, but I would never recommend this technique to anyone. I'm glad that it has worked for you though.

Yes I am completely aware of this but it's just the best way possible for me in my current life situation. You think this would be effective after 3 hours of sleep? Also I mainly posted this for reference to demonstrate the effects of watching your body falling asleep which rarely but may possibly result in a wild.

**nina** · 02-21-2012 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by 12padams

You think this would be effective after 3 hours of sleep?

Sure, it would be more effective at night after any length of sleep longer than 90 minutes, which is around the time you'll be entering your first REM period of the night. At 3 hours you'll be hitting your second REM period, which is longer than the first, and even better timing. A lot of people like to WILD after several hours of sleep, when REM is longest, and most vivid, but I prefer to WBTB after about 3 hours so that if I do become lucid, I will typically spend the rest of the night lucid. Which can be a good hour or more worth of LDing. When I try to LD in the early morning hours after several hours of sleep, it is easy, yes, but I also feel like my body wants to wake up more and I am unable to spend hours in lucid dreams because I just don't have that much REM left. It's a personal preference, and you just gotta find what works best for you through trial and error.

**Ctharlhie** · 02-21-2012 11:31 PM

My body hates me if I WBTB with only 3 hours. If I don't wake from REM I tend to forget why I set the alarm in the first place

Around 6 hours prior sleep seems to be my lucid dreaming sweet spot.

Wow thanks for the advice... Now I got 2 new chapters planned for my book. Trying out this wild method you have shown me for a few weeks and that singularity experience app. I just hope this works for me because naturally I am good at dild however I no longer have time to sit around for 2 hours a day (i used to have ultra good dream recall) writing my dreams due to college. Hopefully this wild you have shown me will work within 30 minutes.

Go for it!