Thread: Maybe a stupid question...

but when you have to roll out of your body, are then in your "bedroom" in a lucid dream is that always a wild? I was wondering if other induction techniques also include sometimes having to roll out of your body. For me it seems that is the only time it happens, and with other methods I enter the dream into a scene already in action. Why I ask this, is sometimes it won't be a true wild to me, and it will seem like a DEILD, but that roll out of body technique doesn't always happen unless I'm Wilding. Like this morning, I awoke from a LD, stayed relaxed, felt the heavy lead blanket and experienced the HI (which ALWAYS makes my breath hitch and pulse race and I have to consciously relax, it's always so disturbing for me), and I had to roll out of my body and was in my room.I know it's probably just semantics but just wondering what others thought.

What you describe sounds like a DEILD to me, though the experience of HI indicates a possible WILD as well. Really they are both forms of WILD, so either way . . . .

Concerning your question about "rolling out of body": were you aware that you were dreaming when you rolled out? Did you maintain consciousness all the way through the transition from waking to dreaming? If so, then you WILDed (or DEILDed).

Originally Posted by ThreeCat

What you describe sounds like a DEILD to me, though the experience of HI indicates a possible WILD as well. Really they are both forms of WILD, so either way . . . .

Concerning your question about "rolling out of body": were you aware that you were dreaming when you rolled out? Did you maintain consciousness all the way through the transition from waking to dreaming? If so, then you WILDed (or DEILDed).

Yes, I was lucid from start to finish. I have had other successful Wild's but this one happened SO fast so I was sure if it would be considered the same. Also it does seem I only get the HI during Wild's, I thought it might be a semantics issue but I wasn't sure so thought I would ask others what they thought. Thanks!

Most of my WILDs also involve "rolling out" of my body like you describe, or simply "getting up" as I often put it. Typically the initial "getting up" will be followed by a series of DEILD-chains since these early WILDs aren't always the most stable to start with. These DEILDS feel the same as the initial WILD, that is, "rolling out" or "getting up," but technically they are DEILDS because they follow an interruption in the initial WILD, what I typically call a "half-waking."

However, more than once I've had experiences like this that I thought were WILDs at the time, but later when I woke up and started writing down the report, I realized were probably actually DILDs... that is, I *thought* I was WILDING from a WBTB in my waking life bedroom, but it turned out on retrospect that I was "WILDing" from within a pre-existing non-lucid dream. So it's not always entirely straightforward!