How many here have never been able to WILD?

[mini0991]

I've been trying various methods over the past five years, and I've pretty much never even gotten to SP. I really don't bother much with the technique anymore, but is there anyone else here who was just pretty much never able to get it to work?

[LouieO]

mini- I did go through a huge WILD-ing phase when I was younger, because my cousin whom I was doing LDs with (shared dreaming) had a huge amount of success with it. But I could never even make it to SP, and decided it just wasn't the method for me. (I considered the whole time period a failure, but looking back, I actually had around 20 WILDs in about a month... ) I've come back to WILDing now though and find it's the easiest way for me to dream. So maybe it's just not your method, but before you stop completely, try a bit of troubleshooting with the methods that work best. If you can just personalize the methods a little to fit YOUR wilding heaviness (meaning if you fall asleep too early, you are a heavy WILDer, too late, a light one, and if you wake yourself up because you are too scared you are a jumpy WILDer... I made all these things up and use them in my head all the time, I'm a heavy calm WILDer) you're more likely to succeed. If you do decide to stop, i'd recommend you give it ONE more try in a few months, to see if you've gotten any better.

[Skicanoe]

I'm over 50 now and have NEVER experienced sleep paralysis nor any luck with WILD. Have known about the WILD technique for about six years or so. Can't claim to have worked on it too diligently though. I am a very light sleeper.

[JamesLD]

yeah dude, ive tried to WILD many times but have never been successful. so ive basically given up on the method. hey i guess WILD jsut isnt for everybody. though i have gotten into sleep paralysis on accident a couple times but have never been able to make a lucid dream out of it

[ReachingForTheDream]

Other than with DEILD, I have yet to be able to WILD. I'm pretty sure I've never had SP. When I try to WILD I get this sudden rush of vibrations, along with extremely vivid imagery, as if I'm about to start dreaming. But it fades in a second or two. After that I am left feeling EXTREMELY rejuvenated to the point where it's hard to relax and wait any longer. The few times that I did wait around after the vibrations I got some waves of numbness and a few more vibrations, but that's it. I remember reading something about some people having a stage where their body will try to prematurely shove a person in a dream. I have asked around a bit and I believe this is what's happening. I am at this barrier with those stupid vibrations (I wish I could just get SP, it'd be sooo much easier). They are the only thing to keep me from having a WILD other than DEILD (and DEILDs are unsatisfactory for me since I can't get them much more and because they are so short).

[Folqueraine]

Count me amongst the unsuccessful. 75% of the time, I give up when waking up and go back to sleep immediately. When I do manage to stay up, I'm so tired afterwards I fall asleep immediately. So... yeah. EDIT : I've had my first WILD the night after this post! Seems like my subconscious needed some admonishing after all.

[IndigoGhost]

Count me amongst the unsuccessful. 75% of the time, I give up when waking up and go back to sleep immediately. When I do manage to stay up, I'm so tired afterwards I fall asleep immediately. So... yeah. EDIT : I've had my first WILD the night after this post! Seems like my subconscious needed some admonishing after all. Pesky little subconscious are they not

[LWA]

I'm just starting to work with WILD, but I decided not to obsess about SP or not. I more just think, "I'm going to tell myself 'I'm dreaming' until it's true." That seems to be more Stephen LaBerge's take on it; he hardly mentions SP in discussing WILD, if I recall correctly. So far I haven't had an LD while practicing WILD (I average about two a month with MILD), but I have had some rather wonderful body sensations, and I felt exhilarated, speaking of exhilaration, the whole day following that experience. I've also had two dreams in the past week where I was practicing WILD in the dream. This makes me think I'm on the right track.

[Motumz]

I've done it once, out of a year trying.

[EspadaInMyCloset]

I never attempt WILDs. NEVER. I do a personal mixture of MILD and some other stuff. However, I can't say that I never did WILD. I've done it about 5 times unintentionally.

[BigFan]

I've tried to WILD a couple of times however they were when I first went to sleep and I could only get some heaviness, numbness, etc.... My latest attempt was 4hr into my sleep and I saw what appeared to be the start of some dream imagery however I fell asleep While I think WILDs are harder to do than most other techniques due to SP, etc.... and I'm sure most ppl agree, the idea that they can grant you instant lucidity in comparison to DILDs and MILDs where you have to rely on remembering to RC makes it a better option if you hate waiting and relying on chance lucidity

[ReachingForTheDream]

Bah, I think it would be easier with SP, at least you might know where the hell you're going. For me, never getting SP, I don't know whether or not I'm close, whether I did something wrong, ect. I really wish I would get SP, it's a marker in WILDing and I have no clue where the hell I am without it. Many people tell me different things, so I don't know what to believe

[mini0991]

Actually, I have to correct myself: I did reach SP a few times, but every time I actually *did* reach it, it was never deliberate. I'm still aiming to be able to induce it.

[BigFan]

Bah, I think it would be easier with SP, at least you might know where the hell you're going. For me, never getting SP, I don't know whether or not I'm close, whether I did something wrong, ect. I really wish I would get SP, it's a marker in WILDing and I have no clue where the hell I am without it. Many people tell me different things, so I don't know what to believe Same here, I haven't reached SP yet. I mean if I got to SP, then at least I know how close I am and what I need to work on, how it feels, etc.... but since I haven't experienced SP yet, I'm also in the dark, but, DILDs only work well if you have some dreamsigns and constantly RC which I don't have, don't do all the time Actually, I have to correct myself: I did reach SP a few times, but every time I actually *did* reach it, it was never deliberate. I'm still aiming to be able to induce it. Same here, have you tried waking up before REM(approximately REM @ 4.5h, 6h and 7.5h) and seeing if you can get to SP if you stay awake long enough?

[luneCode]

Other than with DEILD, I have yet to be able to WILD. I'm pretty sure I've never had SP. When I try to WILD I get this sudden rush of vibrations, along with extremely vivid imagery, as if I'm about to start dreaming. But it fades in a second or two. After that I am left feeling EXTREMELY rejuvenated to the point where it's hard to relax and wait any longer. The few times that I did wait around after the vibrations I got some waves of numbness and a few more vibrations, but that's it. I get EXACTLY the same thing! Getting to the point where I start feeling the vibrations is no problem. What I think is happening is this: you accept this dream-imagery that is so vivid, but then you have a moment of "This isn't real, oh I'm about to dream", and that somehow activates a part of your brain associated with being awake. So you have worked your way to beta-brainwaves (can't remember which you have when you're sleeping), and then in an instant, you go back to having the higher frequency brainwaves, and for some reason, you feel really rejuvenated, and can't go as deep again as before. I wish I knew what to do not to launch myself back into waking-life-brainwaves. :/ feels like I've been trying everything.