Thread: First Near-Successful WILD attempt - Advice!

It sounds like you were in SP, or at least very close. Possibly just short of actual full paralysis, not sure as I haven't had it myself yet.

The only thing I can think of would be (and I've only read about this) - when you were feeling heavy after experiencing the tingling, try to feel yourself spinning or rolling or sliding down through your bed as if falling right through it. Focusing on the sensation of physical feeling is supposed to help transition you through to the dreaming state.

I'll just leave it at that since I can't speak from experience on it.

Ah thanks Darkmatters.. yeah I did at one stage, as I read people experience different things during transition such as speeding towards a dream or falling through their bed, and focused on it a little, but sort of as a sub-priority. I assume if I paid more attention that most likely would of helped.

Oh I forgot to mention when the first large wave of 'electricty' washed over me, my breathing became much deeper and my heart raced...would that of contributed to the detachment from it? It was sort of an unfamiliar experience, so I was just wondering.

This is typical of my WILD attempts. What I do is I slow down my breathing radically. Then I diminish the amount of air I breathe. I delay inhaling until absolutely necessary with no tension, I always wait a few seconds after I think I need to breathe before taking a small 'sip' of air. It gets so that I am barely breathing and my heart is very very slow. And all this concentration on breathing keeps my mind from wandering. It gets me soooo relaxed and no-minded that I can't feel my body.

I know what you mean by not knowing if you were in sleep paralysis or not. I never try to move in order to 'test' either. From this point I either start breathing naturally and try a visualization technique, either the 61 point one or a previous dream or something repetitive like climbing a spiral staircase up to heaven. then I bring the sense of hearing into it, like hearing my footsteps on the stairs.

I get those same body sensations. When your breathing becomes much deeper and your heart races, THAT is the point to jump through, IF you don't react mentally. Try to stay in a state of equanimity. Try to stay relaxed so that your heart does not race so much. If you remain committed to being UTTERLY relaxed instead of letting your heart race, you will notice that the blackness you see takes on a different dimension. There is a spacious depth to it, as if it extends to infinity, rather than ending at your closed eyelids. THIS is the gateway.
So if your heart races, you have probably missed. That is OK, I have passed the whole night before 'awake' and aware through different levels of relaxation. Keep practicing and you will have your first WILD either on purpose or even spontaneously. My first was spontaneous, as I was lying half-asleep I heard birds chirping outside my window, then it got very loud, as if I was in a jungle on ACID. But I was still awake. Then my body felt like I was on a roller coaster, then I figured I was dreaming so I sat up out of bed and tried to walk. I stood up and my legs didn't work and I landed on the floor. I looked back and saw myself still sleeping in bed. So I crawled back into bed and I was still in the same position of sleeping there, and I tried again to get that loud birds chirping. But to no avail. But I got it now so 1 out of every 5 times I try to WILD it is successful, even if I have to try all night. Even if I try all night I still feel like I slept very well in the morning.

Good Insight Dannon.

Here is what I believe your problem is. You do it at night. You even said yourself that you do. REM is required for Lucid Dreaming. If you try to do this at night, the chances of you having REM are like 1/100... experienced LD'ers can sometimes make this work, but you will not. Congratulations on getting into SP though.. The next step is entering the LD.. but it will not happen if the mind is not ready for REM, thats why SP faded and you failed... try these same steps during a wake back to bed and if you have the same kind of commitment, it is very likely to work.

Gary

Thanks Dannon, I think thats gonna help me alot...I just have to keep practising I guess Unfortunately I've been on a holiday in circumstances where I haven't been able to try it properly, but when time permits I'll get right back into it! Appreciate the advice!

And thanks too, atkins513/Gary Yeah, I know I should, but I definitely will now haha..

Thanks guys