Thread: Failed WILD(?)

Very nice patience, I would probably get bothered/frustrated after counting for ages...

It sounded as if you did get some hypnogogia so you may have entered a dream - I used to sometimes have to "open" my eyes to actually enter it properly when I started LDing ages ago (you may have to fight off the uncertainty about whether or not you're still awake - that's messed me up a few times).

Also, you might not have been tired enough (i.e.become too active during the awakening/woke up too long after falling asleep). You definitely waited (more than) long enough for a WILD. The few WILDs I've had didn't take very long at all (but that's probably different for each person).

In saying this, I only LD irregularly so you might want to take what I say with a grain of salt, as more experienced LDers will probably be able to offer better ideas.

Thanks, I was actually quite tired. Tired enough to want to go to bed at 11 and try a WILD. now I guess the problem is getting from SP to dream. Any ideas or links I should read?

'fraid I don't have any. If I was you I would search the forum once the search function comes back (supposedly it's been disabled with the new update).

Also, try having a WILD after being asleep for a period of time (5-6 hours). You don't really have any REM periods for a while (just over an hour) when you initially fall asleep so it would take patience and probably wouldn't be worth it to WILD straight away (due to this initial REM period being considerably shorter than later ones). Set an alarm for a few hours before you normally wake up (do this on a weekend or when you can sleep in a bit if need be), and attempt a WILD after 10 or so minutes into the WBTB. Do what you did in your first post and chances are that you'll have a WILD. Just be sure to try and get "how awake" you become during the WBTB perfect, as you don't want to just fall asleep nor do you want to end up lying in bed counting for an hour. Good luck with future attempts.