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      Planes of Existence

      I have found several theories on this matter...

      The Buddhist 31 Planes of Existence

      Astral Seven Planes

      ???
      I found this one on "MoonDragon's Pagan Realm". Its very interesting, if your're a pagan.

      I lean more over to the first 2, but I like the third ones ideas of a realm of just spirits.

      May tie into the multiverse theory, quite possibly!

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      Quick answer to try to slow me down. Out of enthuasism I'd like hear your reports and experiences (if any) instead of relativies and charts. Though i'M Getting much from them. Show me if you can and if you can't write into poetry, paint pictures, plant trees and play with light.

      > Short breath <

      Here is Atlas project for anyone willing to participate:
      Atlas project
      It's dreamsharing if it's shared writing. I know that many don't hold writing in much value, for there is do and be .. so in case that we still have someone who needs the written atlas or is in state of waste and poor recall, these texts will help. . .

      Akanittha as peerless Devas,, is this a translation or update. Maybe older or different view. Akanistha has been of Devas of equal rank when I first discovered it.

      How does Arupa Lokas relate or describe, maybe even help,,, states like Void, Abyss, Oblivion (state, not place or person or capula?) and Limbo? What about senses and instincts? 5 sense theory, 49 colors of senses?? ? ?= ?

      What does 32 stand for, represent? How can it be divided= ? what Levels, states or places are there?

      Is there deceptions in ADA and midfullness, if there are who are playing thwm? What for?

      Does the woman still stand at the begining of the bridge, is it she who drags bridgecrossers down. Did I touch her back?= Does she recall? Is that her punishment, karma or choice? When will it end? Does she have a sense of her will? Does she hear it? When will she follow her will and (*)emory of touch instead of triggers of random ?

      wHERE does this -> ? live, what about these !,

      Do they travel a lot, what about Alot, lel and parp?

      Where are the warring giants and demigods? Are they no more or are they forgotten but exist somewhere? What about hungry spirits? It's not real or mundane or even true to think that Hungry Spirits are no more if Mara exists :kee: :ke: :ke:

      Where are the instant animatores?

      Where lies kingdoms of englithened animals, where have Arahats gone? What are they now?

      I'm not throwing impossible questions, just quests and chalenges.

      I'm off to meet some hungry ghost and smoke a cig
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      To Nutshell and limit the area of starting:
      Question about one particular realm: How would you tell about Catumaharajika, what you wolud say if you were writing an Atlas and travel guide instead of wikipage. How would you make it perciable and visiblöe? What advices would you give to fellow traveller?
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      Buddhist cosmology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      this has been my source of information, allthough i have some experiences on some of the realms. When I began my study there were 6 pity/desire/misery realms.. I know that zendeconstruction does good to those concepts and renews the realms, but if some realms are permanent or real enough to last through deconstruction and destruction please let us know
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      Quote Originally Posted by labyrint View Post

      How does Arupa Lokas relate or describe, maybe even help,,, states like Void, Abyss, Oblivion (state, not place or person or capula?) and Limbo?
      To start off, I have some study in Buddhist meditation, but little in Buddhist cosmology, so this is my first time looking at this chart or learning of the distinctions of these realms.

      In my experience in lucid dreams, non-lucid dreams and under the influence of hallucinogens and occasionally in meditation I have experienced states of void, but a few distinct types:

      The first I describe as floating on a black sea. I would relate this to the Sphere of Infinite Space. There is still a sense of "me", but not my body. I am on the sea, in the sea, and a part of the sea simultaneously, and there is no end to it.

      The second type I feel that I no longer have a body and expand to the size of the universe. I am one with everything and am everything that exists. I am the size of the universe, but a singularity at the same time, but there is no time. The black void is interspersed with bits of broken prisms. Only I don't see any of this with my eyes or even inner vision. Words like "black" and "prism" are only my conscious minds way of describing an indescribable experience. I think this relates to the Sphere of Infinite Consciousness.

      Once, on hallucinogens, I went beyond this to where there was no longer one with anything because there was no sense of me left at all. This might relate to the Sphere of Nothingness. I actually thought I was dying when it happened, but wasn't afraid. This experience (it actually feels misleading to even call it an experience), is the hardest of all to describe. Others I have described it to call it ego death.

      Thanks for directing me here, labyrint

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