Oneironaut's Artwork

**Lady Grimbones** · 03-20-2009 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

It's cool - I understand the snobbiness about digital art. It took me little over a year to be able to accept digital art, because of the way it usually seem so much more "synthetic" from traditional art (unless it's done with a certain degree of professionalism that you just don't find everyday).

That is true. That is the one of the things I don't like about digital, it is so plastic and unrealistic. Doesn't have the organicness of traditional art. AND, at least with DAZ3d, the computer does all the work you really don't do anything but pose premade models and click.

I'm trying to respect digital stuff though. It is just hard sometimes.

:-)

**Oneironaut Zero** · 03-20-2009 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Lady Grimbones

That is true. That is the one of the things I don't like about digital, it is so plastic and unrealistic. Doesn't have the organicness of traditional art. AND, at least with DAZ3d, the computer does all the work you really don't do anything but pose premade models and click.

I'm trying to respect digital stuff though. It is just hard sometimes.

:-)

I don't think that's exactly fair,though. The "organicness" of digital of digital work often depends much less on the medium than it does the artist. Remember that a lot of digital work is done with digital pens that, with practice, take just as much skill and steadiness of hand as traditional art, does. I think it's a bit of an oversight to call all digital work plastic and unrealistic, because there is plenty of it that's anything but. Now, with 3D modeling, I'm more inclined to agree with you, but not with mediums such a Photoshop, which are digital as well.

**slayer** · 03-20-2009 02:48 AM

Still waiting for that awesome picture of a mage killing a dragon.

**Oneironaut Zero** · 05-20-2009 04:39 AM

I just gave my first tattoo tonight. It was crazy. I had 0 experience with tattoos, and this guy I work with was impressed with my artwork, so he said that he'd teach me and let me use his kit to do one on him (pretty ballsy). Turned out awesome, though. It's a big dagger hilt withe spines and claws, with a skull on top with fangs and spiral horns on it. It's just the hilt right now, but I'll do the blade once he figures out how he wants it. I'll try to get some pics of it tomorrow. But I'm definitely going to get my own kit, and they're pretty cheap to start.

**slayer** · 05-20-2009 07:06 AM

Can't wait to see pics of this!

**Lady Grimbones** · 05-20-2009 07:39 AM

You are brave for posting such a thing.

I said one stupid thing about wanting to be a tattoo artist and getting my own machine and some videos because I did not want to apprentice in a shop and I got a bunch of shitty responses from people who were upset at me for wanting to be a hack and down grade the reputation of tattooers.

So, I hope to be fair that you get the same responses no matter if your artwork is good or not it isn't any better or worse than mine.

AND FOR GOODNESS SAKES wear gloves and get a sterilization thingy and keep your shit clean.

:-)

**Oneironaut Zero** · 05-20-2009 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Lady Grimbones

You are brave for posting such a thing.

I said one stupid thing about wanting to be a tattoo artist and getting my own machine and some videos because I did not want to apprentice in a shop and I got a bunch of shitty responses from people who were upset at me for wanting to be a hack and down grade the reputation of tattooers.

So, I hope to be fair that you get the same responses no matter if your artwork is good or not it isn't any better or worse than mine.

AND FOR GOODNESS SAKES wear gloves and get a sterilization thingy and keep your shit clean.

:-)

Hey there, Grimbones.

That sucks that you got such shitty responses. Contrary to what some "insiders" might want to believe, it is possible to be self-taught a trade, if one does the proper research. I'm good on all of those fronts, though. I have a ladyfriend whose husband owns a tattoo shop, and she's offered to have me apprentice for him. Only reason I haven't done it yet is because I don't have the time to do it on a regular basis, but that will be changing soon. I'm glad I got this opportunity to do it on my own, though - just so I could get a feel of it.

Oh, and we were very sanitary - surgical gloves, a fresh needle which was immediately thrown away after; soap for washing it down; vaseline for the base; and ointment after it was finished. The guy was actually a great teacher himself. I still plan on apprenticing with my other friend's husband, but you can bet your ass that I'm still going to get my own kit.

**peacock486** · 05-20-2009 01:47 PM

go work for disney.

NOW. and get out of here.

**Robot_Butler** · 05-21-2009 06:05 PM

What a great opportunity! Go jump on your friend's offer to teach you.

**Oneironaut Zero** · 05-22-2009 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by peacock486

go work for disney.

NOW. and get out of here.

I've thought about it. I dunno. It would mean moving further away from my daughter, but I could see myself heading out that way, sometime in the future. I've also heard a lot of horror stories about the way Disney treats its employees, though.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

What a great opportunity! Go jump on your friend's offer to teach you.

Yup. I definitely will. I will probably give her a call this weekend, but I'll have to wait until I get another car (transmission blew on the last one, and it'll probably be cheaper just to get another little ride), before I'll be able to get to and from the shop on the regular, though.

And here's a pic of the tat I did. It's still got to be shaded - and a few more details added (including the blade at the bottom) - so it's basically just the outer lining, but I'd say it's not bad for my very first time working on skin.

**Lady Grimbones** · 05-22-2009 04:28 AM

Cool, hope you have room for the blade.

How did you make your icon? I don't have anything that allows me to get clips from DVD's but I want to make a few things. What do you use?

:-)

**Oneironaut Zero** · 05-22-2009 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Lady Grimbones

Cool, hope you have room for the blade.

How did you make your icon? I don't have anything that allows me to get clips from DVD's but I want to make a few things. What do you use?

:-)

Thanks. Yeah, the blade shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure having it go down over the ankle will hurt like a bi0tch, though.

I use VirtualDub to cut the clips out of movie files on my PC, and then I use Adobe ImageReady to turn them into animated .gifs. VirtualDub has a built-in .gif generator, too, I believe. But I've always found the ones made with ImageReady just a little better for me.

**Lady Grimbones** · 05-23-2009 03:38 PM

How much would something like that cost in a shop? And how much would it hurt on a girl's chest over the heart near, practically on, the boob?

:-)

**slayer** · 05-23-2009 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lady Grimbones

How much would something like that cost in a shop? And how much would it hurt on a girl's chest over the heart near, practically on, the boob?

:-)

It'd probably hurt a lot...

Isn't the boob a sensitive area?

I know nothing about girls ;____;

**grasshoppa** · 05-24-2009 12:37 AM

Wow man, I had no idea you did tattoos, or artwork for that matter! Been looking through this thread the last few minutes, and you have some serious talent. Keep at it man, I imagine that the tattoo biz is usually pretty good, but you're probably not in it for the money anyway.

You should try drawing a dead Buddha with a sword through his heart as a visual representation of "If you find the Buddha on the road, kill the Buddha." lol...just cuz it would be a sick tat

**mrdeano** · 05-24-2009 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

http://www.posemaniacs.com/

Thank you! aha

**Oneironaut Zero** · 06-04-2009 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Lady Grimbones

How much would something like that cost in a shop? And how much would it hurt on a girl's chest over the heart near, practically on, the boob?

:-)

Not sure about a shop, but my friend told me I could get $100 or so, easy, from just anybody, without it being shaded in. The boob would probably hurt a lot. I'm told (since I don't have any tats, myself) that the fleshier areas hurt the worst. Artists have to hold down your skin until it's practically the flattest possible, over whatever area they are inking. So, when it comes to a really fleshy area, you'll find the needle not going nearly as smoothly over the surface as you'd like. Heh.

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

Wow man, I had no idea you did tattoos, or artwork for that matter! Been looking through this thread the last few minutes, and you have some serious talent. Keep at it man, I imagine that the tattoo biz is usually pretty good, but you're probably not in it for the money anyway.

You should try drawing a dead Buddha with a sword through his heart as a visual representation of "If you find the Buddha on the road, kill the Buddha." lol...just cuz it would be a sick tat

Thanks, man. That's an awesome idea (the "kill the Buddha"). I'm so back-logged on awesome ideas, though, I don't know where to begin. I could see myself doing one of those in the future. Heh.

And here are two more I did while taking calls at work...

Quick sketches of Wolverine, Gambit, and some generic guy up in the top left. I tried to play with perspective on the generic guy, which is why the hands are so big (supposed to look like they were closer-up), but it didn't turn out right:

Talia, in more of a sleek styling (W.I.P.):

**slayer** · 06-04-2009 01:41 AM

Talia looks hot .____.

Is she made up, or is she from something?

**Oneironaut Zero** · 06-04-2009 01:54 AM

Thanks.

She's made up. One of my strongest (power)characters, back when I used to RP in Yahoo.

**Oneironaut Zero** · 06-05-2009 10:58 PM

Finished (as far as the ink goes), but I might do some more messing around with it in Photoshop:

**Oneironaut Zero** · 06-10-2009 02:52 AM

Samurai guy in pen. I still have some shading to do, and the feet of course.

**grasshoppa** · 06-10-2009 04:52 AM

Looks like a ninja to me. Either way, sick job

**Oneironaut Zero** · 07-19-2009 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

Looks like a ninja to me. Either way, sick job

Yeah, he's definitely more ninja than samurai. I guess that's what happens when I try to draw a samurai, without really having any idea how. Haha.

Been back in Blender lately, since I've gotten Poser and some other program called Faceworx. Here's the new me:

Still doing some work to it, but I might start rendering some scenes with it, as is.

[Edit: Gave him some denim-textured pants.]