Oneironaut's Guitar Playing.

[Oneironaut Zero]

Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the Name of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irg-kYcoujo A few fuck-ups here and there, but oh well.

[Man of Shred]

Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the Name of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irg-kYcoujo A few fuck-ups here and there, but oh well. [/b] One as soon as i Get my pc up and running (using library for now). i will be sure to rate and comment your video. good job for having the confidence to post videos!

[Jess]

Sounds good. The blue reflection on your guitar looked like your guitar had cool lights on it or electricity was coming off it at first!! I guess its the music video playing opposite you?

[Oneironaut Zero]

Thanks, Jess. Nah, it's the TV that's making the reflection on the guitar, but the sound is down. The music is coming from the computer. I didn't even notice the reflection until you mentioned it, though. It does look kinda cool. Heh. I just got this new distortion pedal so I'm going to have to tweak it a bit so that it doesn't squeal when I try to mute the strings and get the "chicka-chicka-chicka" sound, cause it's annoying the hell out of me. Lol. And thanks also, ranma. I figured I'd be better off posting videos because I'll have to just deal with the fact that I'm not yet as exciting to watch/listen to as a certain SOMEBODY on this forum, who will remain nameless - CoughCoughYOUCough - Haha. But hey, practice makes perfect, right? Hope ya like it, whenever you get a chance to check it out. Criticism is always welcome, of course.

[Man of Shred]

well now my pc is up but the damn thing won't connect . Oh well i move to alberta next week and when i get to my brothers's house then i will check it out!!!!

[Pelirrojo]

Nice job man, keep practicing - rage is fun stuff to rock out to :yumdumdoodledum:

[NeAvO]

Not bad your better then me. Keep up the good work

[Oneironaut Zero]

Thank you both!

[Pelirrojo]

Oh, a couple things that might help you on your guitar odyssey - Most importantly: Stop using tabs right now! You probably use tabs, everyone does because they make it so much easier haha. However, if you keep playing, down the road a good ear is going to be priceless as you start writing your own stuff, performing with people (when you've only had an hour to rehearse and you don't know any of the songs haha), etc etc. A good ear is just a great thing to have, and you aren't going to build one by using tabs. Some songs are really complicated and hard to figure out the chords for, so by all means go ahead and look those up, but for songs that are mostly power chords you should try to figure those out on your own before you go to tabzilla or whatever. It will be really frusterating at first so don't let it discourage you, but try to figure out as much as you can before you go to a tab website and you'll slowly improve. To help build your ear you could also try just playing songs you know. Like, pick some random starting note, and play happy birthday, mary had a little lamb, Under the sea, whatever you want Just fudge your way through and as you keep doing this you'll get better and better. Start using your pinky now, seriously hehe. If you aren't already using your pinky, start doing it asap. If you learn to use your pinky while you're still starting out it will be much easier for you to develop it at the same speed as your other fingers. For me playing bass, I didn't start using my pinky until a couple years in so my other fingers were really fast and strong, but my pinky was so weak I would avoid using it at all costs. It's kind of a vicious cycle, the faster your other fingers get the less you want to use your pinky =/ So I guess the point is - start using your pinky now, while all your fingers are slow and weak haha. You'll be happy later on. Third thing - listening to prog rock will make you a better musician. Period hehe. Just actively listening to bands like Dream Theater, Yes, Rush, etc will help your sense of rhythm a lot (by active listening I mean try to figure out rhythms and melodies - tap your foot along and try to feel what's going on). Most popular music is just simple 4/4, and has simple song and chord structure. Listening to bands like these will help open you up a little bit. I also have a couple little rhythm related exercises I like to do - Tapping my pinky-ring-middle-index on one hand, and index-middle-ring on the other hand so a steady beat to imitate a 4/4 beat against a 3/4. You could also try tapping triplets with one hand and straight eighth notes with the other. I dunno man, seems like you're doing just fine anyways - keep playing and you'll improve =D I just hope some of that helps you improve faster :yumdumdoodledum:

[Man of Shred]

not bad at all oneiro! you keep the timing good. most newbies have no sense of rythm. Keep it up BTW i used to play that song a lot when i first started out!.

[CoLd BlooDed]

That was pretty good, man. Your timing was correct and the guitar sounded like it should. I like your electric guitar too, I wish I had a better one. How long have you been playing for?

[Oneironaut Zero]

Pelirrojo: Thanks for all the advice! I’m actually using my tabs very lightly at the moment. One thing I’m blessed with is that I’ve been working in music for a very long time (started w/ piano lessons at about 7 yrs old) and I’ve built up a great ear for music. Everything from percussion timing to harmonizing. The main reason I decided to learn a few tabs is to familiarize myself with the fret board. I’m getting to the point now where I can freestyle pretty well. I’ll make a simple little percussion beat on Fruity Loops and, as that plays, I’ll just improvise along the fret board and make some pretty impressive melodies. (I figured that, since I could do that so well with my voice, already, it shouldn’t be that hard to learn to do it with the guitar..and, surprisingly, it’s not. ) Also, I’ll let a song that I don’t know play on the computer and I’ll completely improvise some harmonics for that song, as it progresses, either with single strings or with the few chords I know. I’m actually pretty impressed with myself for being able to do that so well at such an early (guitar) age. You’re absolutely right, though. Being able to play by ear is much better than relying on tabs (especially over the internet, because many of them are flat-out Wrong) so I will do what I can to keep working more on that. Now I know that, when playing the guitar, there are a large number of string/chord combinations you can do to get the same sounds. My question is – How acceptable is that (I guess in the “guitar community”) when learning to play other peoples’ songs? In other words if I learn to play something by ear, and it’s a completely different format than the original composer, how often do you think I’ll be met with “WTF are you doing, man? That’s not how it’s played!” Or is it something that doesn’t matter, as long as it sounds right? Just curious. Pinky – You know I just got the exact same advice from a friend of mine. It feels awkward as fuck using my pinky but I’ve got small hands anyway, so I guess I need all the help reaching those frets as I can. Hahaha. I’ll start using my pinky a lot more. Thanks. As far as keeping rhythm, I’ve definitely gotten that down pat. Being able to rap pretty damn good, and technically, has helped me with that. Thanks again, man. All great advice. Ranma- Thanks! Yeah, I love that song. Actually I love damn near anything by Rage. CB - Yeah, I love this guitar. It's even better since I got a good deal on it. But...let's see...I had another guitar about 7 years ago (God, has it been that long??) I bought it on a whim and didn't know shit about playing the guitar. I played for a little over a year, off and on. Then I had to get rid of it ( long story ) and I just got this one about four months ago so...going on two years now. I've never taken lessons though, so I'm pretty proud of that.

[Pelirrojo]

Nice dude, just playing along with stuff on the computer is how I learned bass, although I think it's easier to do that with bass than with guitar (may just have to do with the fact that you're classically trained on the piano and I'm trained on trumpet... piano and guitar kind of go together, and trumpet and bass are similar too because piano/guitar play chords while trumpet/bass just play 1 note at a time for the most part). It's perfectly acceptable to play something differently if it sounds the same. You'll probably get called out by some teenage guitarist who will be like "I saw them play live and you're doing it wrong!", but fuck em The only thing you need to be a bit careful of is playing power chords. I don't know much about guitar in particular, but I see a lot of people doing power/bar chords (just tonic + fifth + octave, or, for example, 2nd fret on the bottom string, and 4th fret on the second and third strings) instead of the full chords (power chords are missing that ever-important 3rd). Some songs actually do use the power chords instead of the full chords but you do need to be careful and distinguish. Pinky feels awkward now, imagine how awkward it'll feel in 10 years of not using it haha =/ :yumdumdoodledum: (I just like this smiley :yumdumdoodledum: )

[Oneironaut Zero]

Thanks again. Yeah I'm pretty good at my power/bar chords. It's a bit of a bitch trying to learn the full/standard chords though. Heh. Right now I only know 3 or four of them. I know I need to, though, to get that full range of sound from lows to highs in a single cord (especially to pick the strings individually, in each, to do those harmonic melodies.)

[Neruo]

Hey cool that you play the guitar! Ahhh, rage against the machine... incredible how such technically easy/simple music can sound that good... For a first song, it isn't that bad, actually, it is quite good. How long are you playing? Smells like teen spirit by nirvana is allso pretty cool to learn to play as starters. But I think you are ready for some more complicated stuff. Some jimi hendrix perhaps?

[Oneironaut Zero]

Hey cool that you play the guitar! Ahhh, rage against the machine... incredible how such technically easy/simple music can sound that good... For a first song, it isn't that bad, actually, it is quite good. How long are you playing? Smells like teen spirit by nirvana is allso pretty cool to learn to play as starters. But I think you are ready for some more complicated stuff. Some jimi hendrix perhaps? [/b] Well, I wouldn't call it a "first song," actually. So far I know: Soundgarden - Outshined, Fell on Black Days (most of it, anyway) Bush - Machine Head Rage - Killing in the name of Maroon 5 - She Will Be Loved, Harder to Breathe Linkin Park - One Step Closer, Papercut, Lying from you Three Doors Down - Kryptonite and a few other riffs here and there. I'm working on Enter Sandman by Metallica, now. This one I'm actually learning by ear, and not using tabs. @ Pelirrojo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtFbKNnpTsM Of course there are still a couple of trainwrecks, but I'm getting there. This one is tough.

[Like A Bird Without Arms]

I'm working on Enter Sandman by Metallica, now. This one I'm actually learning by ear, and not using tabs.[/b] Haha, I remember when I was JUST starting out on guitar I learned that opening riff and played it thousands of times before I stopped and asked myself, "Now what?" Unfortunately I never did learn the rest of Enter Sandman, and I looked up the TAB for the opening riff. Keep those videos coming!

[Pastro]

Thats sounding pretty nice O I used to play guitar in grade 5 and couldn't play worth shit, maybe Ill pick it up again.... Anyways, keep practicing and you'll only get better. Edit: Is that your back yard? It looks nice and big!

[Tornado Joe]

O! How the hell did I miss this thread!? Anyhoo - Rage? Awesome! I think you should give "Born of a Broken Man" a try when you get the chance - there's a bit more of a range in technique and style, yet still easy enough for newbies. Sandman: hey, sounding good. People don't realize that even though stuff like that sounds easy, it's mostly a matter of rhytm, plucking and strumming spaced out evenly and tight. My first attempts at playing metal were back in the "Master of Puppets" and "Garage Days Revisited" days - ahh... fun times. I'd also recommend giving some Iron Maidden a try ("Wasted Years" and "Can I Play With Madness?") Pretty soon you'll be ready to work on playin behind your back, plucking with your teeth and diving off tables and chairs (let me know if you need any tips on the later )

[Burns]

O! How the hell did I miss this thread!?[/b] Dude! Me too! Weird. O, that's freaking awesome! :bravo: Love the songs you're doing, too - great song choices! I can fully appreciate how hard it is to play guitar - I tried to get into it when I was about 13, but as far as I got was about 5 chords, and I couldn't even play "Skip to My Loo" properly - it was like "skip, skip, skip to my... (long pause).... LOO!" I sucked hardcore - it just wasn't for me. LOL You are very talented with your music and art - keep up the great work! And keep posting for those of us that could never dream of playing Rage or Metallica on guitar!

[Tornado Joe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("the cat in the bag")</div> I sucked hardcore[/b] Oh yeah, baby - you&#39;d make a great groupie&#33;

[Oneironaut Zero]

Thanks everybody. And yup @ Pastro. That’s my backyard now, but I’m going to be moving (hopefully in January) so I may not have one as big, soon. Oh well. Joe: I’ll definitely check out the songs you listed. I haven’t heard an Iron Maiden song in years. It’d be good to go through some of their stuff again and find the songs that I used to like. And lol @ the tricks. Yeah, I think I’m going to see you do a demonstration of table/chair-diving for my own amuse-maaah, I mean, for strictly educational purposes. Burns: Thanks for the kind words. LOL @ Skip to my loo! Yeah, I hate that shit. What’s most frustrating is after you’ve practiced a song all day, you got it down, you know it, you own it…and then, the next time you play it, you completely suck at it. Lol. It’s like there comes a time when your mind just says “No bitch. You are NOT playing this song anymore. I’m going on strike.” Hahah. Oh yeah, baby - you'd make a great groupie! [/b] Mwuahaha.

[Man of Shred]

good stuff!!!! I wouldn't mind hearing Kryptonite from you!

[CoLd BlooDed]

That last video's not bad for learning all that by ear. Enter Sandman is an awesome song. You should definately go for Master of Puppets when you're up to it. :jk: You know, if you want a cool trick to learn (if diving off of tables or chairs isn't your bag ), I'd suggest you spin the guitar around your neck. If done right, it can be pretty impressive. Keep it up.

[Oneironaut Zero]

Ranma: Well, I should have been more specific and said I know most of Kryptonite. It's actually the hardest song I know how to play. There are only a couple of (full) chords, and I've pretty much got them down, but it's just transitioning from chord to chord, so quickly that I haven't worked out to a science, yet. Basically, I stumble all over myself when I'm playing that song, and it can be pretty painful to listen to, at times. But, I think it may be good enough to post a vid, now that I've got my disclaimer out of the way, haha. So maybe I'll post one soon. CB: Thanks, man. I'm getting a little better at recognizing the chord combinations by ear. Now, if I'm listening to rock on the radio or computer or whatever, I'm usually going over, in my head, whether single strings, bar chords, power chords or standard chords are being played. Over time, it will become second nature. And, hmm. Spinning it around my neck. Yeah, that would be pretty impressive, wouldn't it?