Thread: Ask me about VEGANISM

Originally Posted by Marvo

"Veganism is a philosophy and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose."

that is not possible

Originally Posted by Ynot

that is not possible

Originally Posted by Marvo

"Veganism is a philosophy and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose [with varying success]."

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Originally Posted by Ynot

that is not possible

Vegans are just people who don't know how the ecosystems works. There's virtually no reason for us to use animals, but on the contrary, there's no reason not to either.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Vegans are just people who don't know how the ecosystems works. There's virtually no reason for us to use animals

Well, except for survival, health, science and quality of life... but those are negligible. We wouldn't even have copper without cows.

I know I've said all this before
(we've had 2 or 3 other vegan threads in the past)

but it just seems so stupid
by all means eat (or don't eat) whatever you want
you have full control over your own diet

but quit this whole "any other purpose" crap
cause you have no control over external events

I'm not a vegan by the way. I think vegans and vegetarians are complete and utter idiots, but that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Marvo

I'm not a vegan by the way. I think vegans and vegetarians are complete and utter idiots, but that's just my opinion.

Hehe... seconded.

Wait. Vegans don't eat honey, either?? Holy crap I didn't even think of that one. For crying out loud, I bet most "vegans" out there aren't even aware of all the things we use animal products for. It's in table sugar, too. They're all just dilusional. Not to er, be rude.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Wait. Vegans don't eat honey, either?? Holy crap I didn't even think of that one. For crying out loud, I bet most "vegans" out there aren't even aware of all the things we use animal products for. It's in table sugar, too. They're all just dilusional. Not to er, be rude.

Most vegans are well aware of 'hidden' animal products, most of which are non-issues when you drop processed, packaged foods. The big exception is poop-based fertilizer in organic crops, which most vegans just accept, or do their own gardening.

Personally, I don't find animal agriculture inherently cruel or unethical, but dominant modern practices definitely are unethical, non-nourishing, culture-impoverishing and overall destructive.

My Aunt and Uncle are vegans.

My aunt is now sterile, and they are both overweight.

Ah, so it may be genetic.

Piss off, dropout.

And no you moron they were in good health before they decided to become vegetarian.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Piss off, dropout.

And no you moron they were in good health before they decided to become vegetarian.

Ah, so it may not be genetic.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

My Aunt and Uncle are vegans.

My aunt is now sterile, and they are both overweight.

No way , No WAY!!!!!!!!!!! I went to America last year and half the country was overweight. Im sure none of them were vegans.

Lol you probably click his thread , just to bash on his beliefs .

Vegan here for 2 years and I really dont care what anybody has to say about it.

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

So did you become a vegan for animal rights reasons or health reasons or a little of both or something else?

Mainly animal rights reasons, although now I don't think about it either way, it's just the way I eat.

BTW, here are some vegan body builders. Don't look very diseased or mulnutrioned to me...( although perhaps one of them went crazy on the tanning solution...)


PS Now I know a bunch of pictures don't make an argument, but neither does some story in the newspaper about some horrible human beings who killed their kid via malnutrition.


2005 World Body Building Champion - a vegan named Alexander Dargatz




Here's another vegan bodybuilder:




Robert Cheeke, Veganbodybuilding.com founder:





....and then there's me below, preparing for my latest ultra triathalan around the world UFC fighter competition jump-roping fight to the death, with nothing but the best raw materials nature has to offer: BELARUSSIAN GRAPES.

Those body builders are overdoing it imo...

Grapes are good though

ha you're going to see immortal technique and not dead prez....some vegan you are!

Oh man I would love to see Dead Prez. I don't even think they're a group anymore though?

Yes, he is one of those "I"M SO PROUD TO BE A VEGAN" because he made another post talking about how Vegans and Vegetarians of DV should group together.

Oh, and I'm eating a cheeseburger right now.

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

Yes, he is one of those "I"M SO PROUD TO BE A VEGAN" because he made another post talking about how Vegans and Vegetarians of DV should group together.

Oh, and I'm eating a cheeseburger right now.

Nobody gives a shit what you are eating...

He made that thread , for vegans to talk about about vegan stuff. Not for dumbasses like you , to bash on.

Seriously you really need to stop forcing your meat eating beliefs down people throats. Nobody force you to click this or any vegan thread.

Originally Posted by Halocuber

Nobody gives a shit a shit what you are eating...

Nicel

I dated a vegan once. She only ate oatmeal (and sometimes granola). I can't imagine how much that girl must have pooped

I've known lots of vegans, and they have all just used it as an excuse for being anorexic. Maybe I just know bad vegans, but I think an eating disorder is an eating disorder, no matter how much you try to create reasons for it.

What are your top reasons for being vegan, Ben?

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Nicel

I dated a vegan once. She only ate oatmeal (and sometimes granola). I can't imagine how much that girl must have pooped

I've known lots of vegans, and they have all just used it as an excuse for being anorexic. Maybe I just know bad vegans, but I think an eating disorder is an eating disorder, no matter how much you try to create reasons for it.

What are your top reasons for being vegan, Ben?

Are you saying veganism is a eating disorder?

Hey Ben,
My daughter is vegan,but seems to be always tried. Any suggestions. She takes supplements, but it doesn't seem to be helping.
Thanks

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey Ben,
My daughter is vegan,but seems to be always tried. Any suggestions. She takes supplements, but it doesn't seem to be helping.
Thanks

What does she eat? Is she physically active? Those are the main questions--she needs a varied diet including lots of fresh fruit+veg and plenty of greens, and reasonable exercise. I'd say constantly explore, too--new foods, new preparations, veggies and shrooms she hasn't tried.

seeds are really good for many things like fatty acids that are hard to find in vegan diets. hemp seeds are the best and are really nutritious. nuts are very good for us all, most nutritious if you leave them raw not roasted.
grains like quinoa, millet, bulghar wheat and barley are good alternatives to rice, pasta and potatoes.
raw leafy greens, spinach, chard, lettuce, sprouts and the like are very good for iron and when these are eaten, orange juice or another vitamin c combo should be consumed too, so that the iron can be easily assimilated into the body.
get her to try miso, seaweed, tofu, seed pate, hummous, falafel and really experiment with new foods.

some really good vegan cookbooks are;

How it all Vegan!: Irresistible Recipes for an Animal-Free Diet: Sarah Kramer, Tanya Barnard

Hot Damn and Hell Yeah! Recipies for Hungry Banditos and the Dirty South Vegan Cookbook: Ryan Splint, Vanessa Doe

Vegan Deli: Wholesome Ethnic Fast Food, Joanne Stepaniak