New member here, would like to learn how to WILD?

**jakebb** · 08-25-2010 12:56 AM

Hi everyone, I just joined here. I already have taught myself to lucid dream before I discovered that there were a mass of other people who do this too. I usually have around 3 or 4 a week. The method I use to become lucid is using my watch. I wear a water-resistant watch always, and never take it off. I constantly check the time, and when I do in my dreams the number look messed up so I can become lucid. This works pretty well but I would like to do WILD lucid dreams, the kind where I can go straight from a waking state into a lucid dream. I have tried many times, but I end up just sitting there in my bed for an hour not moving at all and controlling my breathing. I try to relax but sleep just never hits me. I kind of want to give up because it is ruining my sleep schedule. I can only sleep when I count sheep or imagine climbing a latter which takes my mind away from lucid dreaming and I forget. If anyone has experience with this I would appreciate it.

**URappinCool** · 08-25-2010 01:01 AM

If you're doing WBTB, perhaps you are getting too much sleep beforehand or are staying awake for too long.

You have to be tired and interrupted out of a dream when the alarm goes, from my experience.

**jakebb** · 08-25-2010 01:09 AM

I have tried WBTB and just trying it when I regularly go to bed, got the same results both times, nothing. Cannot go to sleep, when I finally do I forget about lucid dreams and just dream regularly.

**Navtyr** · 08-25-2010 06:11 PM

I'm having the same problem, but i wasn't really focused on WILDing, i just did it from time to time and never on WBTB. Can't say much yet since i'm trying it tonight with WBTB, but i think i got an idea how to solve it. I'll report

**zhineTech** · 08-25-2010 10:55 PM

check out this thread:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/why-you-fail-wilds-96892/

**Elucive** · 08-26-2010 06:15 AM

Forget about controlling your breathing. Just go to sleep as you normally would. And when you count, don't count too heavily... Just make it something that's in the back of your mind. I have the same problem. What happens is, we think we're relaxed, but we really aren't. We're stressing over staying still, counting, looking for signs of SP. So, in reality, we're too stressed to fall asleep. We end up laying there just staring into the blackness of our eyelids, which is enough in itself to keep us awake without all that other stuff.

You might read this and think, "oh man this guy can WILD"! Well, I can't. I've read everything there is to read about it, and I still can't do it. And I will never understand what I'm doing wrong. And the thing is, nobody can fix it for you but yourself. I believe the two most important keys to a WILD, are how relaxed you are, and how long it takes you to fall asleep. So, lately I've been experimenting how long it takes me to sleep, and I've noticed that it takes about an hour for me. Which sucks because do I really want to lay in bed and count for an hour? Or imagine myself doing something? Hell no. Yet, I'm dying to know what it feels like to go through sleep paralysis, fully concious, and get up from my bed to a world that is amazingly real, yet all in my head.

Anyways, like I said, just go to sleep normally, but do something that requires MINIMAL effort. What will happen is, you'll drift off into what I like to call mini-dreams, which may last only a couple seconds and then you regain awareness and think, "how the hell didn't I catch that?". Eventually, you're going to slip into one of these mini-dreams fully aware, and in a matter of time, it will develop into a full and solid dream.

It's funny, I should really take my own advice. But I guess my mini-dreams take too long to appear, and once they do, they disappear and then I have to wait another large amount of time. I really don't want to give up on WILDs... But as you can see from my join date it HAS been three years

... Sigh. Life's a beach.