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      DEILD "bug" - too awaken!

      Hi everybody,
      I have a problem while trying to do a DEILD: when I wake up with the alarm, even if I'm in the middle of a REM cycle and even if I manage to stay still without moving a muscle nor opening my eyes, I feel always "too waked up" to re-enter the dream in few minutes, and I feel my body too much awaken, so I fail almost always.
      Instead, when I wake up without an alarm, but due to noises coming from other rooms, I wake up but not so much like with the alarm, and I am able to start feeling the sleep paralysis and hypnagogics (that happened to me about two or three times).

      It's like the DEILD works only if I wake up involuntarily; instead, when I set an alarm I wake up too much and I end up failing.

      Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem and to do a proper DEILD easier and more frequently? (I managed to have one LD per month since october and I've noticed that the DEILD is the most effective for me... so I'd like to improve it in order to have at least one LD per week! )
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      try covering the alarm with something to make it quieter or putting your phone on vibrate. To me it sounds like the vibrate would work well for you, just put it somewhere you would feel it

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      I found that after doing the WBTB technique for a few nights, I would start waking myself automatically slightly before my REM cycle.
      You can try to adjust your cycle in that way so you wake up by yourself.

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      If you get up to go to the bathroom, do it with the lights off. If you have any night lights in your room, turn those of too.

      Also what Lakeypoo said. Turn down the volume of your alarm (If possible) and or set a cell phone on vibrate and place it under you pillow (This is what I do). The vibration of the cellphone will wake you up. You can also do this to have a DEILD if you can set like a cell phone to vibrate only for a couple seconds at a certain amount of time, then that can work as a way to have a DEILD. I find that if I am in a dream, instead of hearing a loud noise I will feel some vibrations and because that is not as obnoxious, I am able to stay in the dream for a couple more seconds to realize, "OH I was dreaming! Ok don't move and don't open you eyes."

      Like I just said, you would have to set it to turn off in a couple of seconds so it just doesn't stay vibrating.
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      The easiest way to slip back into a dream state upon awakening is by not moving and visualizing a recent dream or simply a pleasant scenario. We dream and imagine in the same area of our brains... the secondary visual cortices in our occipital lobe.

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      I wake up without alarm clock, don't move and don't open my eyes and I find myself too awaken sometimes. ;D
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
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      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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