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      Thumbs up How long before achieving lucid dreams, im desperate

      I bought a journal yesterday and when i woke up the first time (morning) i wrote 2 pages about my dream and went back to sleep, when i woke up hours later i wrote 3 pages about the dream, i still remember it, and now i can't wait to sleep again, so exited, how long before achieving lucid dreams, im desperate, am i doing the right things?

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      You seem to be doing fine. If you continue like this, it is very probable that you will have an LD VERY soon. However, there is no fixed 'how long before'. It may take one day, one week, one month, or even one year. You just have to be patient, and keep trying. Mostly everyone get's an LD or two in a couple of weeks after trying.
      Just be sure to RC a lot and keep up on that DJ. Good luck!
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      I dont think i will ever be able to tell im in a dream that im dreaming, im not good at reality check, will the ''All Day Awereness'' help?

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      Recording your dreams is the most important for beginners. You are already doing that extremely well; don't give up on that. Just remember to try and write your dreams in a way to try and make sense of them, like if they were a story you had to record. It can be difficult, especially when trying to recall all events and what caused those events, but thats exactly the type of strain/exercise your brain needs to reinforce the importance of recalling dreams.

      You also need to work on awareness as you stated. In the simplest way to put it, everything that you see, touch, taste, smell and hear is not the product of it actually existing but rather electrical signals in your brain. Everything is projected inside your head. A simple exercise to demonstrate this is to push on the side of your eyeball. Did the entire world just bend/shift, or was it just the world in your mind. Knowing this, you can recognize that inputs from a dream and inputs from the physical world can be so similar, that you cannot distinguish between them (although there are subtle differences the brain has difficulties replicating, like consistent time and lighting from sources), especially in the state of sleep where you lack consciousness.

      What this means is that we rely on our subconscious to produce a cue to awake us during a dream. There are two very important processes to follow to transmit this need to your subconscious, because you can't simply say "hey subconscious, do this!".

      First, the only scenario similar to a lucid dream is real life. So during the course of being awake during the day, you need to pretend that you suddenly became aware that you are dreaming, and proceed to do checks to see if you're dreaming. You need to be serious about this; coding the subconscious to perform this task requires full belief in the task and reinforcement on the importance of this task, otherwise it'll just shrug it off like you do.

      Second, which is basically the last point in the first part, is to never stop doubting your ability to become conscious during a dream. Anyone can do it, learn it at any rate they desire, lucid dream as much as they want etc. Since we rely on the subconscious to provide us cues to become awake in a dream, you must have full belief in yourself that you can lucid dream and that you need remember to check to see if you are dreaming. The amount of belief you have determines the importance of the task to the subconscious. If you lack confidence and don't believe it won't work, don't expect it to, because the subconscious will follow that same feeling you have and not prompt cues.
      Last edited by Rathez; 05-05-2011 at 05:06 PM.
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      Have you tried WBTB? I heard that a lot of people got their first LD with it. Don't doubt your abilities, remember that everybody can LD, but few have the patience for it. I still haven't had a LD, but I know that if I stop trying, I can miss out on a lot. Good luck and hopefully you have a LD soon !

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      I would tell anyone interested in inducing a LD to visualize while drifting off to sleep. During the process of sleep lucid dreams can occur between the Theta brainwave state and the Delta brainwave state. This is referred to as non-REM dreaming. When you first feel yourself drifting off to sleep you are in Theta. When you are asleep you are in Delta. One of the first things the human brain likes to do upon falling asleep is dream. Dreams occur in the secondary visual cortex in the occipital lobe near the back of our brains. Visualizing a scene, or simply imagining, also occurs in the secondary visual cortex. By visualizing your are prepping your brain for dreaming.

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      Don't worry you will get an LD eventualy. It took me a week to get my first one. It is hard to remember to do RCs and stuff at the begginin but eventualy you will remember to do it all the time and you are bound to do it in a dream any time now.

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