Thread: Thats it! I'm just going to go and ask what everyone wants to know.

I had my first lucid on the first night I hadn't been thinking about lucidity all day long. It was my birthday and I went to bed thinking about how awesome my day had been, not about how much I desperately wanted to get lucid.

MrMarley is right, you need to stop stressing your self out over this. It's easy to forget why you even wanted to lucid dream in the first place because you become so hung up on the goal of it. You probably haven't had success because you doubt your own ability to lucid dream, you need complete belief, forget everything you've learnt about Lucid Dreaming being 'hard', the only thing that separates the people who take weeks to attain lucidity and those who take years is that one group attempts, the other group knows they will achieve.

Right. Well I might have a sort of sports day all day friday- perfect for forgetting about lucid dreaming. I will try to forget for that entire day. I will still set my alarm to alternate every second day to wake me up 2 hours early, as that requires no effort. Everything else is having the gas eased off. But again, if no results show in say, a week, then I will DEDICATE myself to doing ADA.

Yeah I know it's strange, suddenly to be like ok stop all your doing to have a lucid dream. But one thing I think people overlook is the mindset you need to have when attempting to lucid dream. It needs to be on your mind, yeah, but not to the point where you get frustrated or angry at not having one, as hard as that may be and you need to believe that you can do it. Mindset & Method and you're good to go bro. You can do it. Wait it out patiently

Thats true for me too. I've had times where it'll just come of some random day. True I'm deffinatly NOT an expert, but I've had a few lucids. How is it not stress though dude? Trying too hard is kind of a stress

I say its not about stress because I am under no stress. I meant its not about stress FOR ME personally. Well, I tried doing nothing last night, again, one crappy shred of a dream. All day today, lucids only popped into my head three times. Hopefully tonight I will be back on track with plenty of dreams. Thats what I want again, dreams, not just the one little shred I can barely remember. Is this a dry spell? Hope it ends tonight. The plan for tonight is just going to bed as usual, nothing dreamviews related. Then, by saturday, if nothing changes at all, I'm going full on all day awareness.

Right now, I just want my dreams back.

Tried a few different ways, but the one the got the most immediate results was incidentally the easiest: I just plugged my nose any time anything really awesome/really awful/really weird happened and see if I can breathe. Eventually I started doing it in dreams too and voila! I was lucid. =3

I can either go do reality checks, do all day awareness, nothing, CAT or try WBTB. I have tried bits of all, and nothing has ever really come of them. I guess I could try your nose plug thing, along with some ADA, and CAT... Its just frustrating. With everything else, it's work, and some results, more work, more results. With this its work, nothing, more work, still nothing....

I mightve completely missed the mark, but whatever .

Me, I think it's just your mindset preventing you from lucid dreaming. Instant gratification won't come here, just going with what you've said and all, you seem to be a busy person, like constantly. You needs to ease up in life in general if you wants to lucid dream. If I'm right and you're a hella hardworker, then please find time to sit and do NOTHING. Absolute zero. Sit somewhere and stare into space, let your mind wander and forget your troubles. On the premise of ADA, to me it's all that's needed. How can one expect to become aware in dream life when throughout the day they are so dead in waking life. So the advice is, if you're a busy bod, find joy in the most mundane thing and pay attention to lifes minute details when you slooooooooow down and do nothing... To ease your mind of stress and to be aware that you are alive, then lucid dreamings a snap.

Well I'm not exactly a busy person, but I don't really just sit and stare, or look at the details. I think my problem is that I just try something, such as WBTB, and after a week, maybe less or nothing, I try something else. I hear that I should stick with something, even if its not working.

So I'm going to go for DEILD, which I just looked into now, and can see myself doing (and I think I nearly did it once one morning). I also have a few days where I get a lie-in. So I'm going to try a new method- doing one method for longer.

I guess what I'm trying to say is stop trying. You think you're making progress but you're going backwards. Trying method after method is frantically clawing at the hope of success. You say it's not stress, but I think it is stress, you don't need feel stress to be stressed, just like a chair will show no signs of strain but then suddenly break. To stop trying is to slow down, to slow down is to realize what lucid dreaming is all about. It's about being aware, and if in your life you're unaware, then sit, don't try, do nothing but be in your body in whatever room at whatever time, be in the moment. very poetic but it's true. Be 10^14 cells working in harmony and nothing else. Then that will spill over in the dream so that you know dream from reality.

Anyone who will tell you that Lucid dreaming is about walking around staring at your hands, waking up at 3 in the morning, downing supplements and going into self induced sleep paralysis is wrong. Belief. Belief and positive attitude, that's what will carry you through to success with any method, your biggest problem right now is that you don't believe you will succeed, and so you don't.

I agree. Its hard you know? People say "I had a lucid last night! I got to do this and this and it was awesome".

It makes sense for me to do whatever I can to get that. Even if it is actually backwards. But I will try to believe more.

Aye, Ctharlhie, very much so, you need the belief in yourself and don't make other people the drive for your desire to lucid dream. Ignore what people say coz it's about you and your progress. I like to think of belief as a very high level of confidence in yourself, but not cocky. You know who you are, you know you're capable so you are confident you can do anything. If one day you really believe you're going to have a lucid then don't, do not be frustrated or feel like a failure. Like I said, you need to be content with the possibility that you may NEVER have a lucid dream, but still try because you believe. If you can say I believe I'll lucid dream tonight with that knowledge, you've hacked life. Congratulations.

Well last night was good in a way, I had an actual proper dream, because before bed I read through my dream journal, so I'm pretty sure that helped to get me back dreaming again. I have 3 nights where I can get up late, so thats three nights of DILD for me. I am going to stick with DILD, as I can do that every night, instead of doing reality checks all day for a month and still maybe not get anywhere.
So it's DILD all the way- I have my alarm set for 4am, which I accidentally discovered when I woke up one night and got 2 S.P.s in a row.

You're close... Stick with it.

I hope so. Well.. I can see myself getting there, as I have been "in the zone" a few times, where I just missed out because I didn't know what to do, or it was poor timing for my REM or how comfortable and relaxed I was.

I have a lie in and free day tomorrow, I washed my bed linen and had a shower today, so I'm all nice and fresh. I will read my dream journal tonight again and I will play my favorite game which quite often appears in my dreams. I think the main reason for my lack of recent dreams is the recent PSN downtime. I have not been able to go online for the past three weeks, and games feature a lot in my dreams. I figure maybe they featured less in my life, and therefore less in my dream? Maybe?

Wish me luck DILD'in tomorrow, and WBTB tonight (Or tommorrow, 4am, whatever)

Good luck! I have a very hard time lucid dreaming myself, in fact I haven't lucid dreamed in months now. (Came very very close this morning while attempting a wild) I believe you can do it, just relax.

I can't wait to hear from you, maybe whatever works for you I might try too. (I have a confession i don't do RC's because I am lazy and try WILD anyways)

Well I'm going to sleep in about 2 hours, then I'm going to wake up by alarm at 4:30, going to try a WBTB. I have some maths problems ready to get my brain going for 10 minutes, then off to sleep. Then, when I wake up at 6 by alarm, I'm going to DILD, or at least try.
Not enough sleep for one night? Maybe. Is it worth it if I get some results? Yes.

Alright, well good news! Not an LD last night, but, I did have 4 solid dreams, so that great to be back dreaming. One scene in particular had a character who was VERY vivid and detailed. He was a fighter, sort of like from a game. He was exceptionally detailed.
Anyway, I went to sleep at 12:30-1:00, I'm not sure. I then woke up by alarm at 5, sat up, stretched, then added 1 to 2, then that to 3, and so on up to 20, then subtracted 20 from 190, and so on, back to 1. Went to sleep as usual. Not much, just a few more good dreams, then I woke up by alarm at 8, and tried a DILD. Didn't get far, just slightly numb in my hands..
I'm pretty sure I dreamed a bit before I woke up to do the counting. So maybe I will set my alarm to wake up BEFORE I start dreaming, then do the same as last night, only with DILD at night this time. I figured I was too awake this morning when I tried to DILD.

I'm glad to have something good to write into my journal again, a full page of stuff. I'm happy with that at least.

That's great news man, you're getting closer and closer. And I think you mean WILD?, Wake initiated lucid dream, DILD is when you just fall asleep, and then in a dream realise your dreaming, maybe through a reality check. WILD's when you enter SP and then all the way to the dream. ADA always gives me ridiculously detailed, vivid and life-like dreams. And yeah, I try to WILD every night, maybe not even to wild just to get used to SP and to notice when you're drifting off into sleep, it's a good exercise to do every night if you can. Keep up the ADA though, it gives me very vivid dreams and adds detail that I never thought you could have in a dream lol, very life-like.

Oh right, yeah, I mean WILD. It was actually the whole night of dreams that was pretty vivid, not just the character I mentioned. I feel like I am getting closer, or am at least back on track dreaming.

I actually haven't been doing ADA through the day, I only remember to do it like 20 times throughout the day, and those times only last for maybe a minute of 2, so it's not worth it for me.

I will try WBTB tonight again, and WILD again. I was just too awake this morning. I fiddled around with my alarm so I will wake up both times earlier.

Always hoping for results, wish me luck.

If you try WILD make sure you wont get up for too long or else inducing SP will be REALLY hard

Okay, well I fell asleep really late so I missed my alarm. I tried WILD this morning, but I was too awake. Going to try it again tonight. Only one good dream last night, and one other I cant remember.

Hoping my dreams come back and that I actually wake up by alarm this time. When is the best time to wake up? During a REM or after one or before one?