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      Okay heres,the REAL problem...

      So I havent been explaining my problem correctly in these last few posts.... Okay so i lucid dream by remembering to do a reality check in the dream. On those lucky days, I can stay lucid for no longer than two seconds.__. Then I get launched to my room (HERE IS THE PROBLEM). Im consiously dreaming still and im in my bed, like a false awakening, and im paralyzed. Im also paranoid as fuckkk. I can break out of it sometimes if im brave and I remember to,stay calm and I can walk around my room, but im to scared to leave my room. I feel like ill see something scary. BUT Sometimes when I enter this state unconsiously ill see something scary like a fridge opening and closing or a toy train car moving by itself and then a shadow creature will attack me? any advice on how I can avoide these states.of dreams and remain lucid?

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      You really need to be confident in your self. You did a RC so you know you're dreaming. Your dream is pretty much created by your subconscious which in turn means you created the dream and that you can control it. Fully believe that and you'll be able to over cone you're fears. Try imagining being somewhere else before you get snapped into your room. Nothing can hurt you if you truly believe it can't. Be confident!

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      Yeap, confidence is the only way your gonna break this fear, if you are expecting to see something scary when you leave your room, there is a good chance you probably might because you are giving yoursubconscious a reason to create something scary to hunt you down in the dream. When you are snapped into your room, remember that its not really your room, its a dream version of it, if you wanted to, you could just run right through the wall and outside your house from a different side rather than use a door. THe only way to avoid these scary dream things you keep seeing is to not expect them to become a regular occurence one that happens, you are gonna hinder your lucid dreaming a lot. When you are paralyzed in your room, try not to struggle to break out, I've tried that too and it always leads to me being scared because of how hard it was to get up. Rather, let your dream body awake itself or wait until you stop feeling/hearing the paralysis and its hallucinations and then when everything is calm, try getting up.
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      If you expect scary stuff to happen in your dreams, then by all means it will.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zteven9 View Post
      BUT Sometimes when I enter this state unconsiously ill see something scary like a fridge opening and closing
      lol...funny how random shit can register as "frightening" in the dream world. When you find yourself paralyzed in bed this is called Sleep Paralysis, you should read about it, it's a very popular subject among lucid dreamers. It's completely natural and happens when your mind sort of wakes up from a dream faster than your body can send out the signals to turn off REM atonia/sleep paralysis. A lot of times dream imagery and hypnopompic hallucinations accompany experiences in SP, so you are still seeing dream imagery as you are waking but are unable to move. This freaks a lot of people out and this fear causes scary things to manifest. The best way to counter and scaryness during the dream or transitional states is to turn something scary into something funny (or sexy). For example, I might wake up into sleep paralysis and feel something invisible grab my ankle. Instead of panicking, I just calm myself and imagine that it's some sexy guy playfully grabbing my leg instead of something scary. Another time I was in SP and my bed started jumping up and down, like you'd see in movie about ghosts, but I just imagined that my bed was a car rolling through the ghetto bouncing from hydraulics and it made me laugh so I wasn't afraid. It works for me, and it usually turns into whatever I imagine. A lot of times I will also go from SP back into the dream state as long as I remain calm, so you can use this as a route to have lucid dreams if you don't allow yourself to become afraid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zteven9 View Post
      ...I feel like ill see something scary. BUT Sometimes when I enter this state unconsiously ill see something scary like a fridge opening and closing or a toy train car moving by itself and then a shadow creature will attack me? any advice on how I can avoide these states.of dreams and remain lucid?
      It takes a little time but simply realize you are in complete control. You can simply fly through the wall and be completely free of the confines of that room.

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      You could talk to your dream and try and become friends with it, ask it how it's doing and eventually why this keeps happening, or you could try to trigger a fight (rather than flight) response, get really pissed off and fight whatever is there. The key is how you feel and what your expectations are.
      "For a long time it gave me nightmares, having to witness an injustice like that. It was a constant reminder of how unfair this world can be, I can still hear them taunting him. 'Silly Rabbit, Trix are for kids!'... How come they just couldn't give him some cereal?"

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      Like everyone else said BE CONFIDENT. Remind yourself YOUR IN A DREAM. Nothing can hurt you, it isn't real. Just imagine sunlight coming through windows and lighting everything up. Be confident nothing scary will be in the dream. Good luck!

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      I agree that confidence is key, but how to be confident without complete awareness?
      I think you need to stop see the scary things as a problem, because then you start to expect that it will happen and you will keep that in your subconscious and you might continue dreaming this.
      So first of all you need to realise that dreams are just vivid thoughts, by maybe do a WILD attempt or something like that.
      Then it might help to just continue get more and more lucid dream, so you can experience this new kind of awareness, so you can be aware enough to remember that you are in control.
      And instead of being scared, remember that there are a lot of people out there that can only dream about the state you have achieved, laying in a bed in a FA it's only one step away from a lucid dream, because you are already in one. (It's also easier to mantain lucidity after a realised FA)

      But you might would like to know why you are scared in these situations, maybe that realisation can help you.
      Source: The Science of Sleep Paralysis - YouTube
      When we are in what we here on this forum call.. "sleep paralysis" or when we DREAM as I would like to call it, the fear centra of the brain is very active and that is why you can become scared of anything like a toy or a fridge open like you described. And you might have heard alien abduction stories or people meeting angels in the middle of the NIGHT. It's even in the bible for God's sake
      And also your inner ear feels weird and that's why most people feel like they want to fly when they get their first lucid dream or why they can feel like they are levitating in their bed and while that is happening you might also hear a "beeping" sound. Anything of this sound familiar? =)

      So the next time you wake up from a dream like this, don't feel dissapointed, feel proud, because you are now one step closer to being nightmare free (I haven't had nightmare for YEARS!)
      And when you are aware enough (in the dream) to realise that nothing is dangerous, the lucid dream truley is a paradise.

      Good luck
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      This "false sleep paralysis" happened to me very often in past and I still experience it sometimes. Since I don't try to move from it as hard as I used to do, it doesn't bother me so much. I just wait until the dream changes its manner and I think positively about the next dream scene.

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      To be honest... i've never had any nightmares (as far as i can remember). So the next time i go lucid then I WANNA SEE SOMETHING THAT MAKES MY BLOOD RUSH

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