WILD attempt.. still struggling to get in SP

**benzilla04** · 05-31-2012 11:45 AM

This morning I tried jeff777's technique "Free falling"

http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/jeff77...hnique-116172/

I let my mind drift then I focused on it.. and I felt my body getting heavy.. and I knew what that meant so my breathing got heavy and i twitched... It stopped after that so I stopped and tried it again
Same thing happened, the heavy sensation was a bit stronger than before but I managed to relax my breathing a bit more, still twitching though. I guess practice makes perfect.. -_-

I'll probably OBE when I least expect it

**Ctharlhie** · 05-31-2012 12:11 PM

It really has to be a very passive thing. Don't try to wait for, or expect, anything to happen, otherwise you'll unconsciously become mentally and physically tense and actually prevent sleep.

Did you do it in the morning morning or was it with WBTB?

**benzilla04** · 05-31-2012 12:51 PM

I woke up around 5am (went to bed at 1am), turned my alarm off so that didn't disturb it then done it. I didn't get out of bed, I moved for about 15 seconds then tried it

**dms111** · 05-31-2012 06:00 PM

Keep in mind that four hours of prior sleep is considered the minimum. The more sleep you get before your attempt the better your chances. Most of my successes come on days when I can sleep for nine hours. That final hour is magic. I'm refreshed and my mind is clear but I know I can return to sleep if I want to. That's the perfect time to do it.

**Ctharlhie** · 05-31-2012 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by dms111

Keep in mind that four hours of prior sleep is considered the minimum. The more sleep you get before your attempt the better your chances. Most of my successes come on days when I can sleep for nine hours. That final hour is magic. I'm refreshed and my mind is clear but I know I can return to sleep if I want to. That's the perfect time to do it.

That's interesting, thanks for the tip

I've only ever done WILD with WBTB when I've been completely exhausted, and repeatedly fall unconscious...

**benzilla04** · 05-31-2012 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by dms111

Keep in mind that four hours of prior sleep is considered the minimum. The more sleep you get before your attempt the better your chances. Most of my successes come on days when I can sleep for nine hours. That final hour is magic. I'm refreshed and my mind is clear but I know I can return to sleep if I want to. That's the perfect time to do it.

Oh, okay. I knew that

I don't have anything planned for the next week or so, so I can sleep in aslong as I want

I'll try wake up just after everyone has left the house so I can assure I don't get interuppted

**Chicken** · 05-31-2012 07:04 PM

Also don't focus on SP too much. My first WILD happened when I gave up on it and just wanted to sleep. Didn't feel any SP or HI, just stood in a garden all of a sudden and thought; how did I get here? Also my magic time is about 7 hours of sleep prior to a 30 min WBTB.

**benzilla04** · 05-31-2012 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Chicken

Didn't feel any SP or HI

What does "HI"? stand for?
I dont think I know what WBTB means either.. Wake Back To Bed, but im not actually sure what it is/how to do it

**Ctharlhie** · 05-31-2012 09:54 PM

WBTB = Wake back to bed, all you really 'do' is wake up... and go back to bed. Stephen Laberge found that an hour spent doing some activity during a late night awakening led to 5x increase in likelihood of lucidity. It's also useful to target the longer REM cycles that come in the later sleep cycles of the night.

HI = Hypnagogic Imagery, the assorted visual, auditory, tactile, etc. imagery that occurs on the onset of sleep, phenomenon reported during WILD such as flashing colours, voices, dreamlike images and scenes, etc.

SP = Sleep paralysis, every night when you enter REM sleep your body enters a state called REM atonia in which the major muscle groups of your body are paralysed but you breathing and eye movements remain intact, implemented by your brain to stop you acting out your dreams in real life.