Feeling Weird "Jolts" While Attempting WILDs, HELP!

[TheGritz]

My Issue: I was attempting to WILD last night and I had been doing relatively well so far. I was ignoring the need to swallow, staying relatively still, and day-dreaming enough to relax while retaining a strong grip on my thoughts. I was about 10 minutes into the session when I started feeling these weird jolts going all the way down my leg, like there was a power-surge running down my leg and then finally letting off an explosion at my nerves. At first they were weak involuntary twitches, but it the jolts get progressively worse until my leg is about to explode. It helps if I try and let my mind wander but the twitches make relaxing so hard about 20 minutes into the WILD I just gave up because I was having so much trouble relaxing. - What were these weird twitches/jolts and how can I stop their effect on me? - About how long does it take to reach SP usually? I want to know if I'm relaxing right or not. I've read places it's 20 minutes, I've read others it's 30, and others that it can easily take an hour.

[TheGritz]

I'm not sure if I'm not getting replies because people don't feel qualified to help or not, but perhaps I should re-address my issue. When I say "jolts" I do not mean strong electrical shocks. I simply mean that I feel strong stimuli in my nerves in my legs. It feels like a mild but un-relaxing shock. Even if you have an idea of what it 'might be' please feel free to post your ideas. This feels like a major road block in my WILD attempts.

[faceonmars]

I occasionally get those 'jolts' , too. Back in the day they were calls alpha jerks... so-called because they occur as the brain is transitioning from the Alpha (relaxed) brainwave state to the Theta (Hypnotic) brainwave state. This is your body fighting the transition due to your awareness. You can't get to Delta (deep sleep) without going through Theta ( unless you are on pharmaceutics or alcohol) . Personally , I thing Sleep Paralysis is over-rated .

[TheGritz]

I occasionally get those 'jolts' , too. Back in the day they were calls alpha jerks... so-called because they occur as the brain is transitioning from the Alpha (relaxed) brainwave state to the Theta (Hypnotic) brainwave state. This is your body fighting the transition due to your awareness. You can't get to Delta (deep sleep) without going through Theta ( unless you are on pharmaceutics or alcohol) . Personally , I thing Sleep Paralysis is over-rated . Thanks for the ideas. I'm going to try SP myself before deciding if I like it or not. At least I know I was getting close to beginning SP.

[RebelSeven]

I have never successfully WILDed without going through these vibrations. I consider these actual symptoms of sleep paralysis. You don't want their affect to stop, you want to go through them. PS. and, countering Faceonmars, I think SP is awesome and should be more popular

[TheGritz]

I have never successfully WILDed without going through these vibrations. I consider these actual symptoms of sleep paralysis. You don't want their affect to stop, you want to go through them. So you are suggesting to try to just ignore the feeling and power through it, or something else maybe?

[faceonmars]

Different strokes for different folks.

[RebelSeven]

There are hundreds of different views on the matter. All I can offer is what has worked for me. Once the vibrations start sometimes I use third eye meditation. All that means is focusing all of your attention on the point in the middle of your forehead. Other times I focus on my vision. That is, my eyes are closed, but I begin to look for visual hallucinations, these are the kind of abstract things that people describe when WILDing. Looking for it jumpstarts it. The only other tool I really use is the repetition of a phrase. I think there is a lot of following for this with a MILD-like phrase, but I prefer something that is more colorful and fun. I recently started using a line from a poem in the new Inheritance book: In El-harim, there lived a man, a man with yellow eyes. To me, he said, "Beware the whispers, for they whisper lies... This is all useful, because it removes consciousness of your body and places attention elsewhere, I think this smooths the transition to dreaming.

[TheGritz]

Ok thanks tons Rebel, I'm going to give it a try tonight when I wake up to try another WILD. I think I might try lyrics from a Taylor Swift song, (Eyes Open) They seem rather appropriate for LDing. Everybody's waiting for you to breakdown Everybody's watching to see the fallout Even when you're sleeping, sleeping Keep your eyes open

[RebelSeven]

Best of luck!

[Chimpertainment]

Your SuperPowers Man!!! Thats what they are! I think you should start considering some names...jolt man...el jolto....hmmm.may need some work..

[melanieb]

Do tell us how this goes. I am curious to hear your thoughts on how well diverting your attention works.