odd way of getting to sleep

**RedWolf997** · 08-13-2012 11:23 AM

ok so reacently i have been trying to achieve lucidity with no luck

Still i was thinking about how i get to sleep and that i dont know anyone else who does it like i do. Anyone else i ask says to not concentrate or focus or think ,but this dosen't seem to work for me at all.
Instead what i do is daydream in bead and slowly my subconcious takes over and it turns into a dream that is VERY unstable even the slightest jolt in the dream and i wake up from it still after 3 or so attempts my dream finishes and i drift into non-REM sleep.
Also i have to read a book before i go to sleep or i don't go to sleep. One time i was lying awake for 3 hours because i didnt read a book then read a book and was asleep in 5 mins

I never experiance sleep paralysis or hypognia or whatever it is called

EDIT: forgot to say that i usually start a story as a daydream ,but my sub-conscious finishes it

Does anyone else go to sleep like this and is there any way i could harness this and turn it into a WILD or a DILD or something

**Highlander** · 08-13-2012 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by RedWolf997

Instead what i do is daydream in bead and slowly my subconcious takes over and it turns into a dream that is VERY unstable even the slightest jolt in the dream and i wake up from it still after 3 or so attempts my dream finishes and i drift into non-REM sleep.

That does sound akin to hypnagogia (after the daydreaming part) which is as you say is very unstable because once you 'notice' it then you sort of jolt awake.
Personally I do love to mess about in the hypnagogic state as I find it highly creative, albeit unstable as you rightly point out.
If you are trying for an LD using that technique, or any that you have read about, then it would best to try after about 5 to 6 hours of solid sleep, or after a morning WBTB rather than at the start of the night, because your REM periods are longest early morning which increases your chances of having an LD.
There are a lot of techniques which could be employed. It is finding one that best suits you and your lifestyle. There are various WILD techniques If you are interested in that route, however I cannot recommend an individual one as it depends on the person, nor am I conversant with that particular technique. (I mainly do DILD's myself.)
Good luck.

**faceonmars** · 08-13-2012 12:41 PM

Try visualizing a set of random images as we dream and we imagine in the same area of the human brain. Also progressive muscle relaxation helps.

**RedWolf997** · 08-13-2012 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=RobStar;1930532]That does sound akin to hypnagogia (after the daydreaming part) which is as you say is very unstable because once you 'notice' it then you sort of jolt awake.
Personally I do love to mess about in the hypnagogic state as I find it highly creative, albeit unstable as you rightly point out.
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i never actually realize im dreaming i just trip in my dream and bam i am awake. if i try and remain aware nothing seems to happen. kind off annoying really.

**Highlander** · 08-13-2012 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by RedWolf997

i never actually realize im dreaming i just trip in my dream and bam i am awake. if i try and remain aware nothing seems to happen. kind off annoying really.

That 'trip' you refer to (correct me if I'm mistaken) sounds like the 'hypnic jerk' which is a natural occurence as you are trying to go to sleep. It is often accompanied by a 'falling' sensation, etc.

See: Hypnic jerk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia