Thread: question and guaranteed way to get an attempt at LDs EVERY NIGHT

Hey idkwhattoput!

First of all, thanks for sharing that WBTB technique, we've got some people reporting it already, but it's pretty awesome when someone also comes up with the topic, it means that it's a really effective technique for loads of people

Secondly, there's not really a way to control where you will start your dream. Even if you incubate a dream, chances are that you won't always get lucid in the middle of the scenario you choosed. This might seem a bad thing but it doesn't need to: your goal should be to, despite where you "land", to change the scenario in a simple and fast way. One of the best ways I found is: walls and doors!

You see, I had many lucid dreams (especially while WILDing) in which I would enter the dream as being in my bedroom. Many situations happened just like you described! The fact is, I found out I wasn't anywhere limited. My room had doors, a window, and walls. When I figured out, it became simple: I simply used a door and pictured the scenario I wanted in the other side. If it was a wall, I would think of it as a fake portal, and walk. Even a window can take you anywhere you want, it's all a matter of believing there's something in the other side. Hope this helped, because I know personally what's like to wake up in your bedroom in several consecutive lucids

Originally Posted by zoth00

Hey idkwhattoput!

First of all, thanks for sharing that WBTB technique, we've got some people reporting it already, but it's pretty awesome when someone also comes up with the topic, it means that it's a really effective technique for loads of people

Secondly, there's not really a way to control where you will start your dream. Even if you incubate a dream, chances are that you won't always get lucid in the middle of the scenario you choosed. This might seem a bad thing but it doesn't need to: your goal should be to, despite where you "land", to change the scenario in a simple and fast way. One of the best ways I found is: walls and doors!

You see, I had many lucid dreams (especially while WILDing) in which I would enter the dream as being in my bedroom. Many situations happened just like you described! The fact is, I found out I wasn't anywhere limited. My room had doors, a window, and walls. When I figured out, it became simple: I simply used a door and pictured the scenario I wanted in the other side. If it was a wall, I would think of it as a fake portal, and walk. Even a window can take you anywhere you want, it's all a matter of believing there's something in the other side. Hope this helped, because I know personally what's like to wake up in your bedroom in several consecutive lucids

okay yeah i understand, one time i tried to picture where i would wake up in a WILD and before i could get past the hallucinations i heard a loud kind of like slap or something like that and i saw a flash like somebody took a picture and bam everything just went back to normal and i screwed up my LD attempt... so close
i havent really gotten control of my dreams yet, ive had like 10 but i have not in one of them done anything i want to do because i lack control of them and all i do is wander around until i wake up
hopefully ill have one tonight also how can i make my dreams last longer?

I'm sure your next one is right up in the corner ^^

For making your lucids last longer, take a read at this tutorial. It helps a lot to clear some obstacles that might make your lucid end before it should
As a personal extra advice: don't worry about the time you have, just chill and do what you have to do ^^

Originally Posted by idkwhattoput

so how can i keep myself inside a dream longer? and how can i start my dream anywhere i want not just from waking up inside my dream and being in my room?

I have been lucid dreaming for decades and even though I can sometimes will a certain scene it is never exactly what I was hoping for. But, wherever I land, it is always a spiritually uplifting experience.

Originally Posted by zoth00

I'm sure your next one is right up in the corner ^^

For making your lucids last longer, take a read at this tutorial. It helps a lot to clear some obstacles that might make your lucid end before it should
As a personal extra advice: don't worry about the time you have, just chill and do what you have to do ^^

thanks ill try out what i read from the tutorial tonight if i get the chance!

Originally Posted by faceonmars

I have been lucid dreaming for decades and even though I can sometimes will a certain scene it is never exactly what I was hoping for. But, wherever I land, it is always a spiritually uplifting experience.

i asked before ive read tutorials where people say try visualizing the scene imagine the smell the sounds what it feels like what it looks like and youll be there... and it doesnt really work... at least for me

I personally find that images from TV shows I watch regularly merge with active thoughts I had in the afternoon prior to my sleep. What this means for me is if I think about something meaningful in the mid-afternoon it is likely to enter my dream.

Finding a correlation between the subjects I dream of and the time of day those thoughts were active in my mind helped me induce more desired images and scenes into both my lucid dreams and my non-lucid dreams.

The more time you spend analyzing your dreams and the subject matter the likelier it is you will find patterns that help with lucidity. At least, that's my belief.

Originally Posted by melanieb

I personally find that images from TV shows I watch regularly merge with active thoughts I had in the afternoon prior to my sleep. What this means for me is if I think about something meaningful in the mid-afternoon it is likely to enter my dream.

Finding a correlation between the subjects I dream of and the time of day those thoughts were active in my mind helped me induce more desired images and scenes into both my lucid dreams and my non-lucid dreams.

The more time you spend analyzing your dreams and the subject matter the likelier it is you will find patterns that help with lucidity. At least, that's my belief.

so you have a time of day that will most likely decide what will be in your dream? im not sure i understand completely

Wait wait wait wait... I use your water routine and have done it ever since you first presented it to me, but WHAAT a half a bottle? :O
(I drink two glass)

Since we last talk I had a dream that lasted for a vey long time and I was even outside my house. I wish to think that I am in control of how long the dream will last and of how aware I am at the start, but I think it has to do with the balance of two chemical systems in the brain called aminergic and cholinergic system. When we are dreaming it's th cholinergic system that is active and when we are awake and can think critical it's the aminergic system, the closer we are the awakening state the more the aminergic system gets active. However if we wake up and fall back to sleep both the aminergic system can be higher than the cholinergic which makes us more aware of the experience. This is why DEILD is effective.

But the long lasting lucid dream I had was actually a DILD which makes it not 100 % solid science however it was with the help of Dream Chaining I was able to make it last.

Since your water tip really helped me have lucid awareness every night I use it, I basically just do it and hope for the best
Even if these lucid dreams usually ends pretty fast, it's still keeps you motivated

Thanks again mate and good luck

You Can't Trick Me Mom! - Layer 4 (Minor)! - 2012-09-07 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Also one method that I think is effective to "teleport" is to imagine a new place behind a door (What's behind door number one, so to speak).
But you can use your imagination Tim Post from Lucidipedia use elevators and dream spinning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=difQXmdnEKA

Originally Posted by MasterMind

Wait wait wait wait... I use your water routine and have done it ever since you first presented it to me, but WHAAT a half a bottle? :O
(I drink two glass)

Since we last talk I had a dream that lasted for a vey long time and I was even outside my house. I wish to think that I am in control of how long the dream will last and of how aware I am at the start, but I think it has to do with the balance of two chemical systems in the brain called aminergic and cholinergic system. When we are dreaming it's th cholinergic system that is active and when we are awake and can think critical it's the aminergic system, the closer we are the awakening state the more the aminergic system gets active. However if we wake up and fall back to sleep both the aminergic system can be higher than the cholinergic which makes us more aware of the experience. This is why DEILD is effective.

But the long lasting lucid dream I had was actually a DILD which makes it not 100 % solid science however it was with the help of Dream Chaining I was able to make it last.

Since your water tip really helped me have lucid awareness every night I use it, I basically just do it and hope for the best
Even if these lucid dreams usually ends pretty fast, it's still keeps you motivated

Thanks again mate and good luck

You Can't Trick Me Mom! - Layer 4 (Minor)! - 2012-09-07 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Also one method that I think is effective to "teleport" is to imagine a new place behind a door (What's behind door number one, so to speak).
But you can use your imagination Tim Post from Lucidipedia use elevators and dream spinning:

Advanced lucid dreaming: part 9 - YouTube

hahaha you can drink as much as you want
last night i almost had another one last night, but i opened my eyes too soon before getting past the transition phase
weird thing was i actually asked for sleep paralysis to kick in, and it just came out of nowhere, it was mild but then i focused and made it become like really heavy, then i felt my dream body levitate out of my real body, and i opened my eyes too soon