Thread: Motionless reality checks for SSILD

I'm also interested in some of these. Sometimes I just really want to RC but then I think I'll disturb the SSILD process :/

I am not sure about SSILD, but from motionless reality checks trying to float can work, also i'd say if your awareness is good you should be able to sense when dream starts, i most of the time have very distinct sensation at the start of my WILDs and DILDs.

I don't think you fully grasp both the concept of False Awakening and SSILD.

First of all, a False Awakening is, like the name says, a simulation of the act of waking up. You don't dream that you are awake, you literally dream that you are waking up.

Secondly, while performing the SSILD and it's cycles, you are not supposed to go from the awake state directly into a dream. It might happen, but it's not something you should seek, otherwise it would be a WILD. What is supposed to happen, is that by the end of it, you will have an enhanced awareness which is beneficial to you because you'll be able to realise when you're dreaming more easily.

And then another thing, and the author of the SSILD technique specifically refers this in his tutorial: you CAN move during SSILD. If you have an itch, you scratch it. if you need to swallow, you swallow. If you want to reality check, you can reality check.

All that matters is that you perform the cycles, and go back to sleep ASAP.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

What is supposed to happen, is that by the end of it, you will have an enhanced awareness which is beneficial to you because you'll be able to realise when you're dreaming more easily.

From what I've read - and cosmiciron would be the best person to comment on this - nobody really knows why SSILD works (or doesn't work). Enhanced awareness is just one possible (probable?) explanation.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

First of all, a False Awakening is, like the name says, a simulation of the act of waking up. You don't dream that you are awake, you literally dream that you are waking up.

Well in this instance what might be happening is people are just waking up and performing their cycles while "laying down" in the dream, unaware that they are no longer "awake". I haven't tried this technique yet, I will today but I can imagine that being a problem. However it was also stated by the author that if the cycles are done in this circumstances HH will certainly quick in and lift the curtain so I'm not sure either.

@n00b Without moving like it's been said the best thing to do is try to float. You can also try to manifest any tangible alteration to your body and see if you get it (as you would in a dream) but there's no need to complicate it, floating/losing gravity works well and as TruMotion said according to the author you can always move as the intention is not mainly to WILD. I myself see no harm in staying quiet as much as possible, we'll see, if unsure about your RC it might not be a bad bet to do a familiar one.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

From what I've read - and cosmiciron would be the best person to comment on this - nobody really knows why SSILD works (or doesn't work). Enhanced awareness is just one possible (probable?) explanation.

I know the reason is unknown, but it's what's on the tutorial, I'm not making this up.

When you fall asleep from SSILD, you enter your dreams with heightened awareness. As a result, lucid dreams occur. This is called Dream Initiated Lucid Dream (DILD). With heightened awareness, you may be able to spot oddities in dreams and in turn become lucid

Originally Posted by TruMotion

First of all, a False Awakening is, like the name says, a simulation of the act of waking up. You don't dream that you are awake, you literally dream that you are waking up.

My false awakening most of the time start with my dream eyes closed though.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

And then another thing, and the author of the SSILD technique specifically refers this in his tutorial: you CAN move during SSILD.

You can move during WILD too, staying still was never a focus of WILD method and WILD-based techniques, it helps falling asleep but it's never something to concentrate on.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

I know the reason is unknown, but it's what's on the tutorial, I'm not making this up.

Could be the same reason as WILD, falling asleep with intention, right mindset and increased awareness increases chances of DILDs when WILD fails(The reason i like using both methods together, if one fails, other can succeed still).

Originally Posted by Checker666

My false awakening most of the time start with my dream eyes closed though.

Yes, but you still dream about waking up. What n00b is either doing or dreaming about is just laying on his bed, trying to fall asleep. I suppose in most FA's you are aware that you "woke up". If you didn't "wake up", it's not a false awakening.

Originally Posted by Checker666

Could be the same reason as WILD, falling asleep with intention, right mindset and increased awareness increases chances of DILDs when WILD fails(The reason i like using both methods together, if one fails, other can succeed still).

SSILD could go both ways, that's one of the things that I find interesting about it.