Thread: Meditation

Well, for me, I like to induce a nice state of conciousness through a period of meditation. (20-45 mins). This helps set my mind into a place where all that I may think, breath, and move towards, that of a Lucid Dream. Simply, focusing and allowing all of my energy to be consumed and put towards LDing.

Meditation is a wonderful thing, because everyone is different in the fields of it. I meditate and feel my meditation differently from you, and you differently from the next. That is what makes so amazing, pleasurable, and helpful.

As you said here;

My current plan is to be woken in the night, and go straight to this meditation on my back and hopefully fall asleep while doing it

I'm assuming your having troubles putting your body to sleep, and allowing your mind to drift off also when in a meditation.
So when you are meditating, and you've reached a contentedness with the meditation and what it is doing for you Physically and Mentally, and you're ready to fall asleep whilst meditating and not have to Stop, Roll Over, "Initiate sleep faze" Type thing, then I suggest this;

- When you have reached the point in your meditation mentioned above, when you are still meditating but have made the decision to being trying to sleep, You do not need to bring yourself out of the meditation to sleep. If you are able to, FEEL you body and mind drifting off. LET Yourself become careless towards the meditation, it has given you what you have asked of it, and you are now content and ready to sleep. Try not to think to hard, rather become very relaxed as you do after you have just laid down after a long, semi-stressful day. For me, at this point I am allowing myself to slip into different dream scenarios in which my imagination is taking over. I begin to visualize things, and interact with the scenarios and pictures as if I was lucid, even though I am not. (If this is done further, I will enter a WILD) However, if I am aiming for sleep, I do not intervene with the scenarios as much as I would if trying to WILD. Instead, I allow myself to simply drift in and out of these little scenarios and some what interact with them until I find myself waking up the next morning. =P

Does meditation even help during a WBTB?

For me, Yes. After I've scrolled though some Dream Views, Read some entries of my dream journal to waste some time but stay on topic, I begin a meditation. Because I am still quite tired, I am able to be quickly reaching the state of meditation mentioned above, where I am entering different dream scenes. However, at this point, in a WBTB, I am only using it to go WILD for sure as WBTB's give me nice sensations when re-entering sleep.

-Hope this helped!

Meditation with WBTB is great for MILD. Try to meditate and visualize becoming lucid and then move to your side and be ready to fall asleep while saying some mantras.
Hope I helped. Good luck!

Yes, this is helpful, thank you.

So far not had any luck in the morning, tried on my back and couldn't sleep. Also tried it lying on my front (how I sleep) and fell asleep straight away. Guess I need to try a short session from WBTB on my back and roll over to sleep afterwards trying a MILD like mentioned. Hopefully my immunity to sleep on my back can be used to my advantage if only I know how.

I've noticed at night in my shortish session my head feels very light, almost as if I'm about to faint, although I know I'm not. And I'm very suprised it can almost kill my inner voice. I hope this sounds about right so far (only going for about 10 minutes, I'm sure I'll get better).

Your welcome!
But actually I meant that you should do WBTB, then MILD while meditating on your back, then when you're finished from MILD, move to your front and fall asleep. That is a good use of your ability to stay awake while lying on your back.
Again, hope I helped, and sry for not explaining well in my previous post.
Good luck!! Never lose faith, I guaranty you that you will succeed

I've noticed at night in my shortish session my head feels very light, almost as if I'm about to faint, although I know I'm not.

Enhance this feeling if possible and safe to do so. Explore it.

LouaiB: I understood your post, it was explained well. Looking back I think my response could have been worded better, I'm certainly going to try things like this.

Validus: Thanks for the tip, good to know I'm on the right track. I do feel safe; fainting is the closest way I could describe the feeling. I'm hoping I can start to keep this up for longer.

I'm sure it's really not much at all like fainting, almost a slight pull that manifests in the head/body? If so this is exactly like me, however I have fined tuned this feeling to the best of my ability, enhancing it to almost uncomfortable extents. Although it has aided me in manipulating my sensations to further progress in some areas of meditation and lucid dreaming. So, experiment with it! See just how it can help you if it can at all. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Shantak

LouaiB: I understood your post, it was explained well. Looking back I think my response could have been worded better, I'm certainly going to try things like this.

Oops, sry for the misunderstanding.
And also, Validus's tips is gonna be very helpful to you if you chose to use it