Thread: If You Want To Start Having Lucid Dreams ASAP and More Frequently, START MEDITATING

Originally Posted by kilham

It's a great post NeverOnce... I also became interested in LD because of meditation. When I began practising meditation I had some past idea of LD, but I noticed that LDing increased a lot, so I began to look backwards and got the conclusion that meditation along with increased awareness during the day stimulated it. Unfortunately at that time I had to stop it because I was having a hard time at night with uncontrolled astral projections and other heavy and even painful things, so when I stopped meditating (but continued with living in the present moment during the day) LD began more clearly and it was way more easy to control

I began meditating again this week, and I'm getting again astral projection sensations instead of LD! I don't want to push it because -I confess- I'm kind of afraid of the overwhelming sensations that happen to me because of meditation, it's like an accumulative effect.

What type of meditation are you using? Or if you don't know the name, could you describe it? With results like that, who wouldn't want to try!

Yeah I defiantly can verify that Meditation helps. I started practicing Qigong 7 and half years ago and to be honest wasn't all that interested in dreams or meditating, but as time went on things began to change. It started with subtle differences in my dreams, I began to remember more and more of my dreams. The first year I started to become more aware in my dreams, eventually you just knew that dreams would become more frequent so slowly you just become more aware that your dreaming. In the spiritual cultivation community to gain more clarity you need less attachments in your everyday life, then meditating becomes easier. Most peoples noise comes from having hectic daily lives where many issues aren't resolved, so eliminating that stuff first is the quickest way to achieve a meditative state. In Chinese the term is wuwei, from Taoism it means "no intention", it is the ideal goal while meditating. So every time I explain this to people I try to let them know that you should be aware that your meditating, but your not thinking. It sounds kinda opposite of not thinking to be aware that your meditating, but a big mistake is falling asleep while trying to meditate. Sleeping and meditating have been proven to have very different wave lengths, so the effects are different.

In the end I would say there are probably many great routines out there, from Yoga to Tai Chi. I practice qigong and have found a many great benefits. But it just isn't that either its also daily habits, like smoking or drinking. Certain dietary things we do, I noticed eating bad foods yielded less dreams. If you drink alcohol I noticed for me at least it effects my dreams. Basically what I noticed is the less polluting things psychologically and physiologically the more your experience will be enhanced. Once again every ones mental states are different so what works for me might not for you. My practice is called Falun Dafa, you can look it up all the reading materials and lectures are free online at the .org website. I always suggest it people who are interested in meditating because I feel the teacher covers a great deal of subjects.

I know of other practices and other books I have read, if your interested I can find them.

Originally Posted by parkmeats

What type of meditation are you using? Or if you don't know the name, could you describe it? With results like that, who wouldn't want to try!

Hmmm I don't know if it has a name, what I basically do/did was concentrate on breathing, the thoughts would appear and occasionally I wander again but it doesn't matter, I start again and again from the begining, then I imagined I was breathing not from the lungs, but from the top of my head. I don't know why I decided to do that or if there's an actual technique about that, but the first time I did it, I noticed some time later that I had stopped breathing or I don't know how to call it because I had no feeling of being actually breathing in and out from the lungs. I guess that's the one, I've never tried that again because what followed wasn't very nice, I can't even describe the overwhelming sensations, it was very painful and then it took me about an hour to get back to my body.

Originally Posted by parkmeats

What type of meditation are you using? Or if you don't know the name, could you describe it? With results like that, who wouldn't want to try!

I don't want to burst your bubble or anything, but chances are, even if you did exactly what kilham did, you probably won't get the same result. This sort of stuff greatly varies on the individual person.


Also, does anyone know if breath meditation is any useful? Does it increase self-awareness? My thinking is that it does, because you're bringing your attention inside/to your own body, but I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by mimihigurashi

Also, does anyone know if breath meditation is any useful? Does it increase self-awareness? My thinking is that it does, because you're bringing your attention inside/to your own body, but I could be wrong.

In my experience the breath is basically just a stabilisation technique, if you find your mind wandering away from awareness it's just something that snaps you back. You can also use visualisations instead of the breath, for example visualising an object and keeping your mind calm enough that it doesn't fade away or do something strange.

So it's basically an anchor, you concentrate on your breathing, then if something takes your mind away you eventually remember that you were concentrating on your breathing and you go back to that.

I've noticed what really helps me become "aware" is really calming my mind and trying not to think of anything except the breath or visualisation. After 20 minutes of this you get up and do whatever you need to do, but you realise that everything just seems a lot more crisp and you notice everything around you whether you like it not because your mind has no other distractions, you're fully in the "now". It's definitely a very pleasant and peaceful state to be in and everything you do has your full attention, it's very useful to do this before, say, exams. =]

But I have to admit that while I think of myself as quite aware, it hasn't really helped me with DILD. It helps with vividness but there's a difference between being "aware" and being "aware that you're dreaming".