Amazing Dream Plot ... and a question!

**ezzolucid** · 10-13-2015 09:53 AM

So last night produced an amazing & complex dream that I can only guess was semi-lucid but has baffled me none-the-less.

So Im in a regular non lucid dream and there are a bunch of people (about 5) including me and we are planning to go and make my wife have a lucid dream. We creep into the bedroom which is an exact replica of me and my wifes bedroom, she is in bed asleep. I know that by waking her up and seeing all these people in her room that she will be lucid. We are all excited at the fun we are going to have. (this is all NON lucid and a regular dream at this point)

My wife wakes up and says something about her ipad being stuck on the wall. The others take her outside and into the garden and i follow. They tell me that she has climbed onto the roof and that she is having a great lucid dream. I go into the garden and speak to another girl about how funy it is that we have tricked my wife into a lucid dream and how she is the ONLY one here that is actually lucid as the rest of us are awake.

I then say to one of the other girls' HEY but what if IM the ONLY one awake and ALL of you lot are actually dreaming!' This concept freaks her out so i fly around her twice to prove a point.

Im still very much NON lucid at this point even though the whole dream is about lucid dreaming.

Then i tell het that ill be back in 10 mins and i fly into the street outside. As im walking down the street im KNOW that its a dream but im still not lucid. I then feel the dream collapsing but im AWARE of this and have clarity of mind to know to remain still and try to deild. I wake for real but keep still and try to deild but to no avail

An AMAZING and complex dream but some questions arise as i analyze it

1) Was this a lucid dream? I dont think so because if it was then i would have not stayed in the plot, i would have flown to something more interesting as in previous lucids

2) This is the biggest mystery. For the first time, i KNEW full well that the dream was ending and proved this by purposely remaining still for a deild and so i must have had lucidity to be aware of this ... but I didnt feel lucid at the time.

Confused... can anyone offer any insights as to what type of dream this was?

Im thinking that it was a NON lucid dream dreaming about lucid dreaming where i started to very gradually gain more awareness towards the end?

Thanks guys
Ezzo

**Redrivertears** · 10-13-2015 10:19 AM

Hey there,

Very nice dream!

Our awareness in dreams tends to vary, from no awareness at all to wake-like (or more) awareness, with every possible step in between. It's not an all or nothing thing. Additionally, the various 'aspects' of our awareness in turn can also vary. For instance, you can have perfect waking memory, but have strange and absurd believes and make illogical choices in a dream, or vice versa, you can be able to reason perfectly, but have false memories, and so forth.

So what we call lucidity is actually some point in a continuum, and can likely vary quite a bit among dreamers. Personally, I'd call the above dream a lucid dream. Even though you weren't aware enough to fully free yourself from the dream plot, your awareness was considerably higher then in a regular dream, and you showed enough awareness to manipulate the dream to follow non-dream-plot goals (preventing the dream from ending).

Most of all though, I'd call it a great dream to be remembered

-Redrivertears-

**ezzolucid** · 10-13-2015 12:16 PM

Thanks Redriver tears. I suspected what you said above to be the case and was looking for some type of confirmation. Yes i think there is a scale of awareness / lucidity in dreams from, say 1% to 100%

Id put a non lucid 'regular' dream at 10% and an amazing super real lucid dream at 100%. Most standard lucids would be high about 85%+. What i experienced last night was a dream that started at 10% and gradually rose to about 20% before ending. To explore this scale further, I would say that most DILDs start at 10% and then (at the realization of an oddity / dream sign) skyrocket in an instance up to 80% with stabilization skills further increasing the percentage

So instead of lucidity being black or white, every dream is in a grey area somewhere

I think im going to take all my lucid dreams (all 20 of em) and try to work out a sliding scale for reference

Im rambling on now lol

Ezzo

**Baron Samedi** · 10-13-2015 03:49 PM

This was a lucid dream because as you said, you knew it was a dream.

Lucidity is awareness, and there are various types of awareness, and I do believe there are varying levels of lucidity. There is awareness of our physical bodies, which we don't want in dreams, and awareness of our dream bodies, awareness of whether we are dreaming or not.

I notice my lucidity fades in and out in dreams.

**ezzolucid** · 10-13-2015 04:55 PM

I think a scale would be helpful to beginners. Creating one though presents some challenges. There is a % of how much one is aware / lucid in the dream but there is also the % clarity to take into account, for example, I have had several 'obe's where i have got up from my bed absolutely knowing im lucid and with full control but the dream was unstable, dark and 'patchy'.

My lucidity was very high but the clarity was very low so im unsure how i would mark this on a scale. A lot of variables need to be taken into consideration from the level of awareness / clarity / stability / control / length etc

Most of the scales ive seen are 'primitive' and only take 1 aspect into account. Ill see what I can invent over the next week or so

Ezzo