WBTB Help

**Goldenspark** · 11-22-2015 04:30 PM

I've been having a frustration long dry spell since my last LD about 2 months ago.
To try and break it I have been re-visiting WBTB / WILD, but something just seems to not feel right.
I tend to wake naturally at about 4:00 or 4:30, so I go to the toilet, have a drink of water, and then get back to bed to try to WILD.
I lie on my back, and that feels right to try and WILD, but I just can't seem to transition. I get occasional HI, noises, images etc., but just as I think it's going to happen, I snap back to my bed and the moment is gone. I can do this for more than an hour and can't get to sleep or get lucid.
In the end I turn onto my side, but usually then I go to sleep quite quickly even if I try the usual methods to transition.
It's like lying on my back is too uncomfortable to relax into an LD, but lying on my side is too comfortable and I just drop off.

Any suggestions?

**dollarway64** · 11-25-2015 03:00 AM

I have this same problem as well. It can be very infuriating. I found that it helps to just go with the flow sometimes.

**Redrivertears** · 11-25-2015 09:36 AM

Hey there,

I often have the same problem as well, so I'm not the best person to offer advice when it comes to WILD'ing. For myself, I've learned that the trick is not to focus on 'staying consciousness'. If I'm actively trying to stay conscious, I will just stay awake and get insomnia. I have to focus on falling asleep and dreaming, but like in your case, that leads to me simply falling asleep most of the times. The few times I did manage to WILD seemed to be accidental, where I found myself in just the right balance between being too tired and not tired enough. Its a very short window of opportunity.

From what I read here and elsewhere, you need a good anchor to keep you conscious while you fall asleep. I've yet to find one that works for myself, but I'd advise you to start looking into that if you're serious about WILD'ing.

Just my 2 cents,

-Redrivertears-

**Goldenspark** · 11-25-2015 11:21 PM

Thanks guys. This dry spell is getting me down a bit, but various issues like stress at work and stuff probably aren't helping. I think I need to do a bit of a "reset" and re-invigorate my daytime practice.

I do get the advice to go with the flow, dollarway64, but that Is hard.