That's a great message curios, I totally agree with you there. Awareness and control are not the same at all. |
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I noticed many people are striving to attain lucidity. Lucidity is not control over your mind people its being aware. Aware of your dreams. Aware of your own being. Over and over i hear people say they are trying to take control. However their trying to reach lucidity. This is fine if you are lucid allready. If you mistake the two concepts in the beganning you may never reach the later skills of real control. |
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That's a great message curios, I totally agree with you there. Awareness and control are not the same at all. |
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are you saying you should give up control? or simply become lucid first, and after awhile once you abtain the ability to have long and vivid lucid dreams only then should you focus on control? |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
I agree control is different thing. I actually have to use extreme concentration, ( or at least in the dream it feels like concentration ) to control things. And the control seems to kinda fade in and out. Several times I have the control to change something or end something, but not the control to change into something specific. |
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I think the distiction is low-level lucidity and fully lucid dreaming. In the former you don't have control, or don't exercise it. |
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"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"
~Freud
I personally believe(and yes, my personaly beliefs are considered "out there" by most people) that controlling your dreams takes something out of it, that you are missing something. At least total control, not some control. Indeed, I wish to be able to have total or near total control and experiment with it, but my true intentions behind lucid dreaming are definitely not for control purposes. Control is boring. |
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I agree. I've woken myself up many times trying new and exciting shit. Although I've never woken up and been disappointed, just a little "damn" and then "hell yeah, I went lucid!" Curios is right about it taking experience to master stuff, I'm sure you know that paperdoll, you're a smart girl. |
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"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"
~Freud
I actually would have to say that you nailed my goals on the head. my lucid dreams start out aware sometimes, then like a trance I fall back out of awareness...Sometimes it's almost like the two halves of my brain are struggleing for control, and the unconsiouse mind always wins....It really makes you reolize how reality is only perception. Our minds create it all, but it seems so outside of ourselves, almost like the real world. |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
I like that idea Jill. I think it's cool how when you're dreaming there is a whole world in front of you and the whole thing is fabricated within your brain. It's kind of like you turn around and look into your head rather than out of it. |
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"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"
~Freud
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Definatly paperdoll. Last night i had a good one and i was very calm. Seems like its more of mind control just like luciid wannabe said. most people when they first start out really try and move thier body which is what im thinking wakes you up. But yes remaining calm and gaining the lucidity is key before trying anyhing. |
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