A HighSchoolers UberMan Sleep Schedule Experiment

[NarutoUzumaki]

My problem with lding is that often days I find myself wanting to stay up later and later but still be able to lucid dream. This sleep schedule seems perfect for me. It works by depriving your body of sleep for like a day, then when you are tired you start to sleep for 30 minutes every four hours. So your aiming to take about six naps a day, which would mean you're sleeping for 2-3 hours a day and being awake for 22. Now what happens is, the first week or so is called "zombie mode". It'll be the hardest obviously because your body will still be "sleep deprived" in a way even though you are sleeping. But soon after, your body will start to adjust to this new strange sleeping schedule. Your body will think its so tired that it basically needs to skip the first two stages of sleep and head straight into REM every time you take a nap. Now you can see how beneficial this can be for lding. If you are taking 6 naps a day, sleeping for 2 hours total this new sleep schedule will mean you are experiencing TWO hours of REM each day instead of the normal hour or so (estimate) and you will have 6 chances of lucid dreaming every single day besides the normal one chance or perhaps even two during wake back to bed attempts. Your body will also learn to "love those naps" so to speak and learn to follow asleep within 3 or so minutes to catch as much of those precious 30 minutes as possible. I also hear that people don't even need to sleep the full 30 minutes to wake up feeling alert, energized, and remembering a full dream. They often times learn to wake up before their alarm because of their body's eternal clock and when waking up they find that they've remembered an extremely vivid dream within a 15 or so minute time frame. Another nice thing is how easy dilds can be. Itll be pretty hard not to notice you're dreaming after training with this sleep schedule since you'd be awake one minute, and within a dream 2 minutes later. I've done quite a bit of research on this lucid dreaming wise and people who do it tend to experience extremely vivid dreams every time they take one of their daily naps. Now you may not start off remembering dreams and what not when first doing this sleep schedule, but that's because your body is still experiencing NREM. But once you keep at it for a week, it will cut out NREM and the other cycle and basically jump straight into REM every time you take a nap because it wants to head straight into the best part of sleeping at night. Studies show that we do not even need the first two stages of sleep and REM is all we need, so this sleep schedule is perfectly safe and people have done it for years if they can find a way to work around their schedule or form their own. Another benefit is wilding. Wilding is reported to be extremely easier now just because of how fast you enter sleep and straight into REM at that. If you can keep yourself a bit aware when falling asleep I am sure you can have wilds. People have often reported dreams starting before they even fall asleep. Ever wanted to make several wilding sessions throughout the day and experience them in a almost "direct" mannor? Well heres your chance. I know I've experienced this before when staying up for a long time and catching up on sleep. Imagine how beneficial this will be for ANY Lding attempt. Imagine how beneficial this will be for dream recall! Now that you know a good deal about this, here's what I want to know. So I'm a home schooled high school student at the moment. My schedules are extremely flexible. Summer just started for me so I have plenty of time to try out this sleep schedule and get adjusted to it. By the time summer is over or near ending (one or two months from now) I can have a pretty good idea on how this sleep schedule performs. I should have gotten used to it by that point and no longer experiencing fatigue or drowsiness, and waking up feeling refreshed. People who've gotten used to this sleep schedule often report a sense of time dilation as in a sense that their naps seem to be two hours each and every single one because of how refreshed they wake up feeling. In a way, they actually feel just as normal as a person running on 8 hours of sleep each night, but these people also have 22 hours during the day to do anything they want. Catch up on a TV show? Get ahead in work? Having 22 hours during the day could seem extremely hard at first because you'll need something to do to keep you busy during the first week as you're adjusting but you'll get used to it. Imagine how long your weekends will feel just because you're not sleeping 8 hours + each day haha. Anyways, back to my experiment. Even if summer is over, I'll still have a flexible schooling schedule and will be able to afford my naps throughout the day. So I am confident that I can give this sleep schedule some proper reviewing and get a good experiment going on dreamviews. This summer is the summer I start to get lucid regularly, and it may just be from this strange sleeping schedule. The only thing holding me back is if I should try it or not. I obviously have no problems doing it, and my daily life allows for it, but I'm wondering if I'll have any problems with "stunted growth" or anything? I'm no stranger to staying awake for longer periods of time as I've said, so I haven't experienced any problems I'm just wondering how this will effect me down the line. I don't see it as being much of a problem provided I've adjusted to the sleep schedule. I know I'm also not the first high schooler to try this. The thing that separates me from them though is the fact that I'm home schooled and can afford to have such an exotic sleeping schedule. Also don't worry about this sleep schedule affecting my grades or anything lol. Since I'll have more time during the day, I'd be able to get a lot more working done. This past year I've been doing my school work a day early and have been ahead ever since. Other than that minor concern, I am willing to give my all to this sleep schedule with updates after each and every nap I take through out the day, daily. How fast I fall asleep? At what point did i start to remember dreams again? Are they vivid? Lucid? Do I wake up feeling refreshed? Lots of these questions will be answered over the course of the next few months. I'm sure this will prove to be an interesting experiment for us all to enjoy. I know how easily sleep deprivations benefits lucid dreaming. In a way, this sleep schedule would be like having REM rebound 6 or more times a day (depending on how much I take naps) because of how we enter straight into REM and our dream clarity and vividness increase. Throughout the time of this experiment the only thing lucid dreaming related I'll be doing is All day awareness through out the day and quite a lot of reality checks since I'd be awake for 22 hours every day. I can see just how fast these two things could start to take effect in my dreams every time I nap. The awareness will help me spot that I'm dreaming easier and the reality checks obviously will as well. I wouldn't be surprised if I even start to have dreams about doing this odd sleep schedule, reality checking in it, and getting lucid from it. I'll also be dream journaling after every single nap. I'll perhaps even journal the extremely vivid or lucid ones on here so you folks can see just how exactly I got lucid or how this sleeping schedule effects the quality and content of my dreams. I'll even be journaling when I don't remember dreams, in a sense of setting an intention to remember them during the next nap and writing "I did not remember any dreams" in my dream journal. People often report their best dreams during naps, so I am ready to put a truth to that statement with the help of you folks on dreamviews. Bare with me, as I'm sure this will make for an interesting ride. Q; how in the world will you experience any good dreams (lucid at that) in a time frame of only 30 minutes? A; Like I said, naps start to time dilate themselves. You can sleep for 30 minutes, but your body WILL start to feel like you slept for 2 hours. Same for lucid dreaming. A particular person named Steve Pavlina tried this exact sleep schedule for 5 months and reported all of the same symptoms I am discussing with you now. Even if you are dreaming for 15 minutes, it'll feel a lot longer than that in the dream itself. Plus don't forget just how many naps you'll be taking during the day. Also each day will start to blend together just because of how long you'll be awake every day. Suddenly, "Only six lucid dreams a day" won't seem like a problem because your sleep schedule is sort of on a "constant" and you'll be experiencing another 6 lucids within no time.

[AlexTheDreamer]

This honestly sounds dangerous. 2 hours of sleep a day is madness. But I mean I'm not telling you what to do, but it really does sound like a bad idea.

[NarutoUzumaki]

This honestly sounds dangerous. 2 hours of sleep a day is madness. But I mean I'm not telling you what to do, but it really does sound like a bad idea. There have been several cases where people have learned to adjust to 2 hours of sleep every day (Since every nap they take will be REM sleep, and like I said we do not need the first two stages of sleep whereas REM is required to be healthy) and they start to wake up feeling just as refreshed as they did when have a monophasic sleep schedule (normal 8+ hours sleep every night) also the guy I mentioned in the Q and A, Steve Pavlina, noticed no health effects during his five month period of doing this. He even noticed he hadn't gotten even a common cold during that five month period. There is also a group of other people called Polyphasic sleepers or "Polynappers" who have adjusted to this as well and can attest to there being no heath effects with this experiment. In a way, you are right. Who can fathom sleeping only two hours day? Well me and quite a few others. We can experience the same benefits of regular sleep but manage to get more out of our days. If the thought of 2 hours a day scares you, there is also variation sleep schedules to this such as the "EveryMan" sleep schedule where as you sleep 4 hours a day instead of two but still receive these amazing benefits. People often get so used to these sleep schedules, they end up doing it for a full year or two before having to give up on it because their daily lives couldn't allow it. Since I'm a home schooled high school student who has a full two years of high school left, I can make a proper review of polyphasic sleep schedules and figured i'd journal all of this on dreamviews since others may want to try it as well. I am pretty confident that this will be a great experience. With this sleep schedule, I won't be sleeping a third of my life away like others, but also afford to get in some consistent lucid dreams.

[dolphin]

This honestly sounds dangerous. 2 hours of sleep a day is madness. But I mean I'm not telling you what to do, but it really does sound like a bad idea. The reason why these polyphasic sleep cycles are healthy is because when used the important stages of sleep (delta sleep and REM) are condensed due to less time being spent in the unimportant stages (early NREM and excess REM).

[AlexTheDreamer]

I really can't see 2 hours of sleep becoming enough. both NREM and REM sleep are important for the brain and body to recover and repair itsel. By getting only 2 hours of sleep, your losing a lot of time for this to happen, not to mention the other numerous bad health effects. Studies have even shown that not sleeping leads to heart problem, obesity, and many more effects. When we sleep vital hormones are produced for our body. If we limit that time, then those hormones don't get made in high enough quantities, leading to various problems. But like I said before, I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I'm just putting my honest opinion in.

[NarutoUzumaki]

Yeah I have heard things about people saying not to "try a polyphasic sleep schedule if you're underage" because it can lead to stunted growth, but their haven't been any full claims to that actually happening. I figure I either start doing this now while I can during summer, or just leave it alone and stick to a regular sleeping pattern and lucid dreaming. I guess I'll make my mind up soon from the replys this thread receives. Then again, life is all about taking chances and I doubt trying this for a month or two will hurt anything. It'll be interesting. If I can manage to tough it out these for two weeks and get used to this schedule I should be set. Once my one or two month mark is up I'll determine if the effects I received from this experiment would be worth continuing or if I should just go back to being a monophasic (regular sleeper) even if I went back to it, I could still retain my ability to lucid dream since I would have probably had quite a few experiences with it during this experiment, my awareness should be increased since id have had a ton of time to practice it and i would have been substanialy familiar with performing reality checks. I'm 16 years old (I'm already a slow grower as it is) so this will make for an interesting experiment to see how this effects me. I don't like living my life scared of negativity when it hasn't been proven to actually be negative or anything (:

[AlexTheDreamer]

Most human growth hormone is produced while you sleep, so,if you are still growing then this could be a bad idea.

[gTimeJohnny]

Yeah. Important hormones are produced during nrem. It might be true that a healthy adult can go on all REM (even though nothing but ancedotal evidence has been supported so far), and not get affected by any serious side effects, but i have my doubts, and i personally dont think people should take the chance.