 Originally Posted by michael79
Abnormal sleep pattern... count me in 
So, what is different for you? And can you use that for lucidity?
My sleep pattern seems to be absolutely normal, with REM increasing over the night and sleep cycles of 90 minutes. At least when I can get enough sleep 
 Originally Posted by michael79
I take a look at your experience and doesn't sound like delta sleep, I have some experience with that matter. If you can hear your surroundings or feel your body like you describe it, you can't be in delta. I think you have a similar ability to mine, exploring deep alpha state, similar to deep meditation, a borderline space just before theta waves. In that state you can definitely experience the void, if you try it before sleep.
Yeah, I think so, too. I always wonder how brain activity differs between this and deep meditation; not only in frequency but also which regions are more or less active. There is a noticeable difference for me.
Unrelated to that, I once went lucid straight into the void. No idea how this happened; I suddenly got conscious but was only a point of awareness in black nothingness.
 Originally Posted by michael79
I was wondering to create or not a new thread about this, but maybe I can tell you here. If you have time for a nap in the afternoon or the evening and you are sleepy, you can try the following: lay down on your back with two pillows behind your head, you must face the wall in front you not the ceiling, bent your knees, eyes closed. This will make you uncomfortable enough not to fall too fast asleep, now you must do the opposite of wild, you must go with the urge to fall asleep while trying not to fall asleep and just hovering your consciousness between wakefulness and sleep, this will give you an explosion of hypnagogia. If it happen right, you will start to see whole dreamscenes or movie like scenario's while still awake, just hold down there as longer as possible. It is gonna feel like you an observer of the dream world. For the level two, [...]
Normally, I don't take naps and I neither have strong (visual) hypnagogia. But some two weeks ago I randomly did what you're describing for level one It was indeed a strange state between wakefulness and sleep with lots of dream imagery, though I can't remember any details. Sadly, I got woken up abruptly, resulting in headaches for the rest of the day...
I'll definitely try again, I love experimenting
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