Thread: Inducing Trance To Wild - Part 2

That sounds cool... Do you play CS?[/b]

I'm assuming you mean counter-strike, and no. It's easier to concentrate on the sounds if I keep the visuals simple for me, so my army guys are more like green plastic army men.

I can vividly perceive all other senses as well, move them at will, whatever I like. [/b]

Dude, you are my hero. Lol

Originally Posted by BohmaN

Great post!

Just a few questions:

1. Syntix, how long do you need you practice the "apple visualizing method" to get good results?

2. After you have become proficient do you have to keep practicing or will your skills be pretty much nailed ?

ThaNk You!
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Hey BohmaN,

1. As long as you need to basically. The decision of practicing is all up to you on that exercise. When you feel ready and confident that you can vividly visualize all 5 senses within and HOLD these senses for about 5 minutes or longer then you may be ready. This all depends on you.

2. Pretty much nailed, you'll always have the ability to visualize 100% if you continue your efforts. Though once you reach the goal, you'll find yourself wanting to visualize actually.... so don't worry about 'losing it'

Bump. I have added a new technique into the hallucinations section called - Focusing on Contrasts Technique. Check it out

1. As long as you need to basically. The decision of practicing is all up to you on that exercise. When you feel ready and confident that you can vividly visualize all 5 senses within and HOLD these senses for about 5 minutes or longer then you may be ready. This all depends on you.[/b]

whaoo That's a very long time. Now I can hold my imagery apple with my 5 senses involved for about, hmm about 10 seconds or so =P

How about you? Are you a "visualization-god"?

Sounds cool to be good at visualizing. Are there any more advantages of being good at visualizing (lucid dreaming excluded)?

Bumping this too of course.

Amazing post. Absolutely well laid out, informative, and EXTREMELY useful. I will be studying this inside and out.

Sythix, when I was working on the "Develop Vivid Imagery" task, with the last of the extra pictures, the after-image that I see when I close my eyes is far smaller than that of the picture.

As a result the image is unfocused. Is there any technique to enlarge an after-image?

Hey Nazcan,

All I can tell ya is to keep practicing with the images, make sure you have a proper and comfortable distance between your eyes and the image. Also a little tip to help you see the whole after-image is to squeeze your eyelids a little tighter and act as if you're blinking with your eyelids closed. You'll see what I mean when you try it, also if you have a white wall nearby with the after-image in vision start blinking as you look at the white wall and you'll see it.

Hey Sythix,

In the beginning of this thread, you listed several tips and one of them is confusing to me.

"Don't see with your physical eyes, see with your minds eye. Pinpoint the area in your consciousnesswhere this image is projected. It is different than where your eyes project their image. Keep your attention in this area and you might find yourself seeing the images vividly!"

Could you elaborate please?

Thanks

Hi Nazcan,

Besides the particular “way” that you are looking, which is anchored to external perception, there is also a particular vantage that you are looking from. In most people this is a point immediately behind the eyes. We need to move this vantage point to a point where visualizations are being created. If you're having trouble pinpointing this area here's what you can do:

Start first by becoming aware of where it is you are aware from when your eyes are open. Now you have two options. One is too expand this spot and the second is to move it. If you have trouble with either of these, a helpful exercise is to start with your eyes closed; become aware of your entire body, then the room, then the building, then the block and reverse the process; shrinking back down in stages until you are at a single point, mostly likely in your head; note where this spot is.

Hope this helps ya

I get that the vantage point where most people are looking from is right behind the eyes, because that is the point from which we percieve what we see when our eyes are open, but I don't know what you mean when you say move the vantage point to where visualizations are being created. Do you mean metaphorically or literally to a part of your brain that actually produces the visualizations.

Thanks for the help because I know how frustrating it must be to constatly be asked to help me'

I mean literally move it. Here's another little exercise to say what I mean:

Take your left or right hand in front of you and start to visualize a brush stroking along your thumb, do this visualization slowly and really feel the brush stroke. Soon enough you'll start feeling a tingle or some kind of sensation there. What you've done is bring your awareness to your thumb, and you can do this with any other part of your body. This is what I mean, move your awareness which is usually situated behind your eyes and move it to another part of your head. You can literally move this vantage point at will if you practice it, it's not impossible and very easy!

I have a few questions. Sorry if they've been asked before.

First, when you're looking at the image, are you supposed to see the colours at first? If not, when do you think an average person would start seeing colours?

Secondly, when you're trying to visualize the apple, is it best to do it with your eyes closed or open? And when you visualize the apple, once again, am I supposed to see it vividly, as if it were waking life at first, or is it supposed to be shadowy, possibly blurry?

Thanks.

If you are falling asleep how can one induce imagery when one's eyes are closed

Originally Posted by blackberry829

I have a few questions. Sorry if they've been asked before.

First, when you're looking at the image, are you supposed to see the colours at first? If not, when do you think an average person would start seeing colours?

Secondly, when you're trying to visualize the apple, is it best to do it with your eyes closed or open? And when you visualize the apple, once again, am I supposed to see it vividly, as if it were waking life at first, or is it supposed to be shadowy, possibly blurry?

Thanks.

You don't have to necessarily see the colors at first, you do have to see an image though.

It's best to do it with eyes closed in my opinion, that way its easier to focus on the world of inner imagery and take away the attention of visual stimuli with the eyes. With this exercise you should try to visualize it as vividly as you can in your minds eye, you do not have to see it as if it were a hallucinatory-real life image, by following the rest of the techniques one could develop that type of ability where you ACTUALLY see what you visualize in your immediate consciousness.

Minds eye? That's something that's always confused me.

When you close your eyes, do you see the image like...up in your head sort of? Or do you see them before your eyes?

Oh it should'nt be confusing......just think of it this way: You see with your physical eyes your immediate physical environment, and then when you think and visualize/daydream/whatever something you see it within your own mind, with your minds eye.

We have to remember these images start to generate within the mind, they may appear as if you're seeing them with your own physical eyes but you're really not - they are hallucinatory. Very vivid daydreams. If I want to I could visualize an orange in front of me and I'll see it there....

Ah, I sort of get it now. Thanks a lot!

To pinpoint that exact spot at the back of the head. Do I need to meditatae?

*meditate

Am I right in assuming that in The Visual attention Technique you want to focus on the Occipital Lobe of the brain, as it is responsible for vivid visualizations?

Hey dreamer how's it going? I sent you a message, I'm sorry I haven't been able to reply lately, been busy.

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dude holy f**k thank yu!! u f**king rock, this technique you've just revealed has gotten me to a much higher level of hypnogogic imagery for SURE!!!
what was really cool was that i started messing around with imagining an environment using my senses <see><hear><smell> & <feel> holy shit!!!! lol i then saw a kinda like a small vision of a woman who ran past me yelling to someone "your crazy blah blah" and there was a guy following behind her....what nocked me off that vision was that the F**king dude stepped on my my Rgiht foot causing to knock me off the vision!!i guess thats part of the vision getting kicked everytime you become aware of it!

>what i did was the visualization techniques sythix stated..i sat in my meditative way (on my chair next to pc) then created an environment and used my senses combined.<see><hear><smell> & <feel> ende up bein stepped on foot by some dude who was running after the yelling lady!!! remote viewing here i come!!!!!!!

Sythix, I PMed u quite a bunch of times if u ever look here please reply to them!