Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob_001 View Post
Erm, this is total BS.

can someone move this to beyond dreaming?
(its BS because all it does is placebo you up so you think whatever your trying to change will change. It has nothing to do with magical energies)
And before you say I should be more open minded, you should remember that theres a difference between being open minded and just plain being a moron.
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If a sugar pill cures my vision, my fear of approaching women, my fear of making all sorts of moves on them, gets me over a painful breakup, heals the relationship with my parents, my siblings, my friends, my universe...

... I say give me more sugar.

I'm not saying you're wrong. There's no way I can prove to you that it's not a placebo. You may well be right.

On the other hand, there's no way for you to prove to me that EFT is a placebo. I may well be right.

But how curious that the previous "sugar pills" I tried like writing all these old painful memories, reliving events, writing down emotions, as prescribed by other people, did nothing to heal me (even though I believed in them), while this one, which I didn't believe in, has completely transformed my life.

This is a thread about how to obtain lucidity using EFT, which has branched into the other benefits of EFT. I don't see how this thread deserves to be moved, just because we're discussing other benefits of EFT (as if we had begun discussing the existence of Leprechauns).

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You know, unlike UFO's, and Loch Ness, you can actually test EFT for yourself. Instead of calling people morons...

why don't you take five minutes (a reasonable amount of time) and try it yourself?

If it doesn't work then, fine, it's a placebo, we're all morons, believe whatever you want!

The Purple Knight

PS The two statements "EFT is a placebo" and "EFT somehow actually has a significant effect beyond placebo" are both plausible arguments from the evidence: it cures people. To call somebody a moron for believing a plausible argument is simply moronic in and of itself.

All you are saying is that "current medical consensus in scientific circles does not think that EFT should work" - therefore I am a moron.

Humans are fallible. Science is done by humans. Science is therefore fallible. Science does not mean true, science means "our best guess."

All it takes is a few seconds of thought, considering the thousands of times "scientific consensus" has been wrong before (do I have to name Newton's theories, the Ether, non-rotating DNA, and how the latest nutritional advice changes with the seasons) to realize that scientific consensus could theoretically be off the mark again. It does not make me a moron to believe in something science does not believe in.

I'm not saying you're wrong.

Repeat: I'm not saying you're wrong.

How would I be able to empirically prove it if EFT was a placebo. How would you know if it weren't a placebo?

All I'm saying is, you're not a moron to think it's a placebo. I'm not a moron to think EFT has a significant effect.

You are, however, a moron to think yourself open-minded. We are all morons. We are all close-minded.

The Purple Knight