WILD at the begining of sleep

[MrGrEmLiN]

Hey you guys! I've been wondering if anyone tried or thought of trying a WILD at the begining of sleep. Would this be possible to achieve? Has anyone ever been able to do this?! I always read about people using WILD with WBTB or for naps so I wonder if it can be used at that time of sleep. It would be really interesting to master this technique. Maybe we'd be able to lucid dream from the begining of sleep until the end of it with a lot of training! This probably doesn't work cause at the begining of the night REM sleep is still short but I wanna know opinions anyway to see if there's the slightest chance it can happen.

[Abra]

Oh, it can happen. But be prepared to stay still for a looong time compared to when you are WILDing later on at night.

[Kromoh]

actually WILD in the beggining of sleep is completely possible and many people do it what happens is that it is easier t odo it using WBTB or in afternoon naps, so people choose these when they are still getting used to WILD any question,s feel free to ask

[MrGrEmLiN]

So can you like... LD during all your dreams if you master the WILD technique?! Another question is... Do you get dreams (even if they may be less vivid) right when you fall asleep at night?

[CymekSniper]

What a coincedence, I did this exact thing last night! It was unsuccessful but atleast now I know that if I work at it, the skill will be claimed. It took me about thirty minutes to feel the vibrations and REM. I just imagined myself in a situatio which I had to use all my senses. I ate an apple, I pet a furry dog, I smelled beautiful flowers, and I watched and listened to an overhead battle of ships firing their guns at each other. Anyone tell me what to do after I hit vibrations and REM?

[MrGrEmLiN]

What do you mean you felt REM? REM only comes at the end of the sleep cycle...

[Lord Toaster]

Hmm if you got into the state where your body was sleeping but your mind was not (but at the beginning of the night), would your body still get the full amount of rest? And would it be possible to be awake in your mind the whole night through? Has someone tried this?

[MrGrEmLiN]

Yeah, that's exactly the kind of answers I'm looking for, too.

[RetepNamenots]

Some people WILD from WBTB or just from when they first go to sleep. I think that I would be able to do it from just going to sleep when I'm tired, I often get very vivid imagery and the like, but unfortunately I don't realise it []

[Adrenaline Junkie]

It probably would work but you would be stuck for a few hours waiting for the HI to kick in since you havn't an REM period right when you go to sleep for the first time.

[Kromoh]

well, I have got rpetty close to WILD in the beggining of sleep, and I've never done WBTB before, so don't worry about it. eventually, you will mnage to do WILD also, what may happen is that you have hallucinations out of REM period. Having dreams out of REM is impossible I guess. your first dreams will usually start about 45 mins after you enter your first sleep paralysis (maybe less), and they will be short. vividness won't be a problem if you're lucid, though, but as I said, the small duration of the first REM can make your dream last little. taking serotonin before sleep can avoid problems with this, your REM will become faster and last longer staying awake all night is theoretically possible, but it would be extremely hard. There are many key points in which you can doze off (entering SP, entering dream, exiting dream etc).. but, as i said, theoretically, it is possible, so go for it! about resting in WILD. when you get into SP, your body is asleep. you won't feel any body discomfort if you WILD too much, but what may happen is that the lack of mind relaxation could give you some headache. nothing a nap can't fix though about WILd when you're tired, it depends on hwo tired you are. If you have just done some uber physical exercise and your body longs for some sleep, then it will be esier. But if you just took a 3-hour-long math test, it will be harder any other questions, I'm here lol

[CymekSniper]

What do you mean you felt REM? REM only comes at the end of the sleep cycle... Doubt me all you want, I know what I felt.

[MrGrEmLiN]

Doubt me all you want, I know what I felt. I'm not doubting I'm just confused about what feeling REM is... And how long it took to come

[Kromoh]

I've already felt REM I guess I felt quite strange (just like when you are entering SP) and my eyes were moving fast. At a time I tsarted to blink with my eyes closed (you get the idea).. I couldn't stop it, no matter if I wanted to. I dunno if this really was REM, but why would it not be?