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      Simple but effective WILD technique!

      Before I begin, I've never had a WILD but I've told a few people about a technique that my buddy used to do. He didn't know what a lucid dream was, he just knew that he could control his dreams naturally since he was 3 or 4. This method works pretty well from what I've been told...Of course it doesn't work for me, because I'm WILD-impaired. Idunno, maybe you guys already know about it, but just humor me This method requires no amount of sleep beforehand. You just have to be tired enough to go to sleep. I recommend using it in concurrence with WBTB. Basically it revolves around daydreaming.

      You know how you can be sitting in class or sitting on a plane, bus, just somewhere where you don't feel like focusing, and your mind starts to drift off? You're not going to sleep...not quite, but you have scenarios of things you're thinking about going on in your head. Daydreaming some call it...I see it as quite literally day-dreaming. You're not asleep or unconscious, but you sort of imagine things happening with your minds eye.

      You don't literally see the images...it's sort of like when you have a song stuck in your head. You don't literally hear the song, but you passively acknowledge it in your mind, because your subconscious remembers how it goes. Apply this concept to day-dreaming. I recommend doing this with your eyes open first. It seems counter productive, but I highly advise it. Think of something...anything that you want to see. Start small, and with your eyes open, just sort of zone out staring blankly at something. This is best done in a quiet, still environment. It can be done in the dark, but I suggest moderate lighting...its really just a matter of personal preference. Whatever works best for YOU!

      Choose a scene. While you should choose to day-dream about something that you want to have a lucid dream about, I also can't stress enough that you must start SMALL and SIMPLE. This method will not work if you try to do too much at once. My first time trying this day dreaming exercise, I was not trying to WILD, just trying to day dream. I created an ice rink. Empty. Just plane. The key to this method for WILDing is to focus primarily on details. Get as detailed as possible. Think of it as if you were an artist, drawing out a landscape of your mind. You don't magically draw everything at once...or maybe you do, but you get the point . One thing at a time, and make sure you get every possible detail before you go to the next thing.

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      For example, in my ice skating daydream, I envisioned myself sitting on the bench, tying my left skate. I drew (in my mind) an old pair of skates, that had scratches in the black plastic, and worn laces. I made sure to get every detail of the marks on the skate. Then once I was finished, I focused on how my jean cuffs rested on the skate. I drew someone's chewed gum on the ground at the rink. I went on the ice. I made sure to have a bunch of random lines in the ice where skaters had skated before me. All of the hockey circles and whatnot on the ice. All of the scratches in the plexi-glass, everything.

      Then I focused on the cold. How i felt. Since I'm not that great of an ice skater, I thought about my balance. Try to make it as realistic as possible. Everything that you would see if you were really there, try to recreate it in your minds eye! After a certain amount of time, it will be suitable to close your eyes, and you will eventually just phase into the dream scene without any conscious effort. The one time I tried to do it, I succeeded, but I moved to soon. If I can do this, ANYONE can. Believe me. I'm the most unsuccessful WILDer on here.
      Basically, this is just a slightly different approach to WILDing. Obviously I'm one of the members on here of lesser experience, but I must say, this seems to be the best method. This, used in concurrence with WBTB and/or MILD will produce excellent results, and is great for those WILD-impaired persons, such as myself.
      This method can work at anytime. I have started doing it at random times, and though I have not had much success with WILDs before, I hope that this slightly less complicated method of WILD is helpful to many of you!

      You'll have to forgive me, I'm not very good at tutorials, I've never done one before. I know that this method contains a lot of things that are explained in other boards on this forum, but I hope that this explanation makes WILD seem a lot less intimidating... There is much talk of WILD being pretty difficult, which I think produces a mental-block for many less-experienced members on here when they try to do it. They always have that subconscious knowledge that perhaps it's too hard for them. I hope this can ease some of your insecurities about WILD..and I hope you all have great success with this method!

      Happy dreaming everyone!!!

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      interesting

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      omg loved your description

      you're a better tutorial writer than everyoen I'v seen :O

      I'm definitely gonna try this... both before sleep and in deep sleep


      that somehow sounds like VILD, but I might just be talking shit, so let's wait for other members' replies

      for some reason your tutorial made me feel happy... it's like an anti-fnord.. loved it I must say
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      Yeah, this sounds like VILD. I'm definitely gonna try this tonight, your description was a lot better than the original guy who posted a VILD tutorial. I'm pretty WILD impaired too so maybe this will work for me if it worked for you. Thanks a lot for writing this, even if it doesn't help me it's very well written and will most definitely help many people.
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      Excellent! whenever I'm trying to nap in the afternoon, I find myself getting visualizations such as you've described, generally commonplace things where my mind wanders, it's almost like watching a blurry movie or something. I'll definitely give this technique a try and see how it works out, i've got high hopes! thanks for the tutorial, very well written.
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      ive already dabbled with this and will try tonight in connection with that meditation thingy

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      This definitely sounds like VILD, but the analogy you use I think can't be stressed enough. People write VILD tutorials who try to complicate the process far too much and try to find really intricate ways about how to properly visualize what you're seeing and just generally not connecting their process with anything anyone has any real experience with in real life, leaving you to think that VILD is a frightening new frontier for lucid dreaming that you won't be familiar with and that you shouldn't expect quick results with. But simplifying VILD down into daydream - period - leaves everyone on the same page; they know what it is and how to do it, because we've all caught ourselves daydreaming about nonsensical things during the day.
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      I really appreciate all of the feedback! I hope this helps many of you. I've never heard of VILD haha. All of your comments are very much appreciated, thank you all

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      I kindof did this tonight, I was trying to go to sleep, and my mind wandered, became a very detailed daydream, and all of a sudden I became aware of my body. The major thing was that I wasn't really focusing or trying to do the technique.

      I also noticed that when I was trying the WILD technique, I became incredibly confused and muddled with my thoughts/body. I became caught up in hi and my thoughts, but I would often drift from them back to reality, making things very confusing and sometimes causing tension, and I can't relax. Im wondering if I were more conscious of myself and the hi, perhaps i could have had an ld? The thing is, this was right when I went to bed ( I try the WILD technique to practice laying there), so im not sure if the hi could have actually put me into a lucid dream.

      Thanks for the tutorial, I will try this when I actually wake up from sleep!
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      this really is VILD but it seems like an easier way to do it. You can get lost in it so not a whole lot of focus seems to be required. Great Job on making this rainman
      everything in our life happens at once. the future is already happening at this moment. We just cant conciously notice it.

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      This definitely helped me get somewhat closer to an LD, you just have to focus on all the tiny elements of a room or a scenario and eventually you get relaxed enough to go into an LD of some kind.

      btw, nice avatar pic abraxas, STM image of oxygen, right?
      Oh... don't worry about that... that's supposed to happen

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      I actually tried a little visualisation/imagination on my latest attempt to stay aware while falling asleep at night. It worked well for accelerating the dream process, but didn't keep me conscious cuz I didn't keep my Mind on it.

      But What I did was I wasn't waiting for the moment of SP where I feel like falling down backwards fast; I actually imagined the darkness in front of me being a vertical abbys down and I was flying supermanstyle down into the abbys.

      next time I'll try my best to keep focussed on that imagination till I'm inside a dream, but I bet that's gunna take a while: I always get blasted into oblivion by the sandman's spell and wake up "beaten" by hypnotic sleep waves.
      I kleep wondering where exactly I lost consciousness since there's a big gap in my memory of that period. Any suggestions?
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      Yeah, stm of oxygen
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      Wow very impressing i sujest you try meditation using this technique of yours. since we don't have much time to go all buddha and all i sujest you relax and sit at a most confotable chair: personal preference: While sitting at that chair, take 3 deep breaths . Relax your whole body starting from your toes and keep going upwards (relaxing) till you reach the head.Main point is to just have your whole body relaxed ok. Now what i want you to do is to close both your your eyes. using your mind's eyes, begin to create any scene you want just like Rainman sujested. You can pretend you're an artist and you're actually drawing your own scene.

      You can start by drawing the next dream you want to have.. Starting with the littleist details and work your way through..Draw...draww keep at it and draw..You can also picture yourself in any place you want, but it's recommended to give it the highest details you can give it in order for it to have effects on your subconscious mind. It'll eventually record itself there as if you were really there due to the much detail you gave it.

      This can explain why we dream of our house and pretty much looks the same.
      wanna know why?? >>>>first of all we live in our house. An second of all it's details are already there which you can see (living room, bed, plants ect,) The point is as long as you can see it, your subconscious creates sort of a duplicate of that and pushes it into your dreams...

      >Now the same structure here: If you can see something with your mind's eyes, it's possible for your subconscious to create a duplicate of it..It's now time to use your mind to work for you my friend. How did a zombie get into your dreams? you created it remember? Horror movie....First of all you imagined it..

      get my point.. ok good
      >meditation, same thing as imagining. work then up together. combine then..Good luck on your next Lucids and this serves as my own tutorial/reply lol
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      That's a really good theory, LucidinCub!zt. I appreciate the addition and everyone's positive feedback! There was one thing I sort of didn't explain very well that I will try to clarify now.

      When you're visualizing these details, try not to think too hard about "am I doing this right? is this the part where (...), what do i do next? Oh I think i'm getting close!" In most people's cases, thinking about where you are in the process of succesfully inducing a lucid dream will in fact hinder the process!

      The point of this excersie is to achieve exactly the opposite! Basically it's a way to distract your conscious mind from concentrating on too many things. By drawing out an intricate scene in your mind, you are allowing your subconscious to take over and do the rest, because it requires so little thought! Before you know it, you'll be drawing still, and at some point you'll experience a "shift" in your consciousness, and before you realize it, you'll be in a dream! Yay!!!

      It's critically important to NOT look for signs of your progress...which is one thing I find very difficult in any method of inducing lucid dreams, because it's easy to think, but difficult to NOT think, which has largely contributed to my own personal failures. The less you think about the process of how close you are to accomplishing your task, the easier it will be for you!

      Also I should re-emphasize the fact that you should really really stick with one small thing. Create the overall scenery of where you are, but stick to one tiny little area of your scenery when you begin "drawing" the details in your mind's eye. Once you have completed every tiny little detail for that area, THEN procede to the next area of your choosing. This step is not critical, but it is very helpful. Continue this pattern with the INTENTION to finish every little detail of every little scene. You must assume that it will take you the entire time, and to your surprise, you will most likely find that you will be in a lucid dream before you're through with your second area of your scene!

      The best way to continually use this method for weeks or months, is to pick up where you left off last time! The great thing about day dreams is, you don't forget them, because you're conscious. If you pickup where you left off last time from the END of your lucid dream, your subconscious will remember this process, and in most cases it will make your transition into the dream state much more rapid.

      With all of this information and things to remember, it may be hard for you to not think about it too much at first...that's ok! This may take some time, or it may happen right on the first time. Every person is different! Tweak this method so that it suits YOUR personality! This is just how it works for me and many others that I know..but everyone is different! This is not a law book, and the steps in this method are only there so that you may experiment with them! Happy dreaming!

      -Rain

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      THat's what I've been doing my entire life.

      thanx for sharing though

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      Wow, all I can say is.. great tut. Good job. I have to try this!
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