Thread: Adam's Guide to Attaining Lucidity

Originally Posted by Idec Sdawkminn

Alright, I have tried this technique for the past 2 nights since I joined this forum.

First night: I set my alarm to 5:30 and went to bed at midnight. I remained positive that I was going to have a lucid dream for once in my life. I later set it to 6, and then to 6:30 because I stayed awake until 1. I suppose the excitement kept me awake. I later woke up around 2:40, probably because the broken sprinkler outside my window was just going off and it's really loud when it does. I thought it was 6:30 and instinctively got up, went on the computer, and when I looked at the time to check how long I had been up, I saw what time it was and was a little annoyed that I had woken up already. I went back to bed and slept right away, then woke up somewhere around 4. I went back to sleep, slept through my alarm, and couldn't remember even a shred of a dream. First night: FAIL.

Last night: I ended up going to bed at 2, so I set my alarm for 8. That meant that I had a half hour to fall asleep and still be within the range. Already tired from the night before, I fell asleep without trouble, thinking positively about having a lucid dream. I woke up at 8 from my alarm and was happy because it was going as planned so far. I got up, went online and checked my email and Myspace. Looked at the dream scenes, then noticed it was 8:13 and I went back to bed. I became very relaxed very quickly and tried to picture the beach scene and imagined myself there and doing what I'd want to do in a dream. I imagined some of the fantasies that I like thinking of sometimes, but my mind kept going from one thing to the other. I'd think of one thing, then that would lead to thinking of something else, which would lead to thinking of something else, but I didn't worry because at least I was still pretending to be lucid. However, I had a very difficult time falling back asleep. In dispair, I looked at the time and saw it was 10. Wow, 2 hours. I couldn't tell if I had fallen asleep during that time or not, and if so, I couldn't tell if I had any dreams or if they were just things I had imagined while concious. I couldn't fall asleep after that and now it's 11 and I'm pretty tired. I do believe I had one short dream, though. I was in my dad's office at work, though it was one my mind made up, and he was sitting at a desk along the wall and he had a crappy old DOS computer sitting in the corner with a really old printer hooked up to it. There was some DOS program waiting for him to put the next floppy disk in to install the drivers for the printer and I guess he didn't know how to do that, so I went over and messed with it and then woke up. Second night: FAIL.

I have not tried this whilst getting up that late i.e during day light. I don't know what your regular sleep pattern is, or anything so please answer these.

What is your usual sleep pattern i.e 11pm - 8am:
What is your average dream recall?:


You should be okay with about 4 and a half hours sleep, Try shortening the time you set your alarm for. I would suggest for the next few nights go to bed at the same time and wake up naturally (if you can, don't know if you work or have school?). So for example go to bed at 11 or 12 every night and see what time in the morning you naturally wake up. On the forth night go to bed at the same time, you should try notice from the other nights how long it takes you to fall asleep and set your alarm accordingly. for about 4 and a half or 5 hours time.

I would also not stay up for as long as you did, as you don't to be awake for too long, try just the 5 minutes, see if this helps you get back to sleep easier?

Hmm, I usually go to bed whenever I feel tired enough to. That's on average, 12-2. I usually wake up around 7-9 on my own.

My average dream recall would be...well, according to my online journal that I had several years back, I had one dream at the end of December of 2001, the next one was in April of 2002, the next one was at the very end of July, and then I had 3 in August, 3 in September, and 1 in December. I'd say my dream recall is about the same now as it was.

Same advice given that information?

Get a better recall, right now.

I'd like to. Hopefully this forum will help.

Oh yes...and...I've uh...never had a sex dream...ever...

The closest I had was one with my best friend (and crush) and one of her best guy friends and they were naked on my bathroom floor and he was pointing to parts of her body and asking me what it was called. I was sitting on the toilet, fully clothed, worried that one of my family members would come in and was trying not to look, but would look to answer his question, then would look away again. That's the only dream I had in which someone was naked.

I haven't had any dreams where I was naked, but had one where I was in my underwear on the school bus, but that's it.

Originally Posted by Adam

Good to have you back - Now lets see if we can get you some lucid dreams

I agree!!

OK! Im really going to try this tonight! Ahh I hope it works!!!

It has to work!! Worked again for me last night

I tried your technique Adam. I didnt have any lucid dreams but that maybe for a number of reasons

1. my reality checking is really REALLY bad lol
2. I dont have access to a PC during the night because its in my brothers room
3. I have only started practising Lucid Dreaming again rescently


However far from being a failure I had the best recall I have ever had last night I recalled 6 dreams and so I will def be trying this technique again tonight as I will be for a while. I will keep you updated

Nice one - recall increase is what everyone has reported on. So glad I could help in that respect - Where do you feel this technique failed? How far did you get with the HI/HS and SP? If we can see where you might need to change it, we can work on an adaptation for you.

I would not call the technique a failing, I have only tried for one night. As far as HI and SP go i really have difficulty with this. only once have I ever managed to get to that point. I find I fall unconsious to quickly. Last night I stayed up for 5 mins, read through my dreams etc

Tonight I think i will try staying up a little longer maybe engage in something that will wake my mind up more. Any tips on how to stop myself loosing consiousness before experiencing HI? I really wanna know what that is like.

As far as the DILD part of it goes Im trying to improve my reality checking cos really I just forget to do it lol, any tips on that at all?

Okay don't worry too much on the DILD part - as long as you try some chanting etc whilst going back to sleep; stuff like:

- "I will lucid dream tonight"
- "I am dreaming"
- "I have just gone to bed, I must be asleep"

Things like this, it's what I do and helps a great deal.

If you find you are falling to sleep too quickly and loosing concentration, perhaps you are too tired when you go to bed? Do you have a regular sleep pattern and are you getting enough sleep?

If so then try upping the time you stay up for by a few minutes, say stay up for 8 minutes. Make sure you get some light on your eyes, so go to the bathroom or something...

Hope this helps

well usually I do have a regular sleep pattern but I have been off work this week so I have been sleeping alot more then usual lol

So I figure I just need to stay up longer. I will try tonight again oh I thought those dream scape pictures you made with "do you know you are dream?" are great I have had that stuck in my head since i read it! lol

Hopefully tonight I will have a bit more luck.

If you are getting more sleep than usual then you should be okay. The idea is to have your REM sleep as light as possible to have the maximum chance of attaining lucidity

Sounds like Adam you are the only one who can successfully use this technique. Has it ever failed you?

No not yet - Not since I got to this stage anyway. Although up to this point it has failed. Sometimes I was too tired, sometimes I didn't stay up for long enough, so through trial and error I got to this stage, so it might not work for everyone right away, thats why I don't mind offering people help on tailoring it to them

Those images you visualise yourself in, do you know them personally or are they from the internet or something?

Yeah, I had a lot of dreams this night, didn't really try the technique though.

Okay, I'll try some more

Originally Posted by ld master

Those images you visualise yourself in, do you know them personally or are they from the internet or something?

No they are from the internet, although more often than not they will morph into a scene I already know.

hmmmm... I've never heard your theory of the faster you fall asleep, the better the chances for lucid. Good tutorial, props. I have not had a LD since school started, maybe this will work for me. I set my alarm, ill post when i wake up. I will lucid dream tonight.

I tried your technique last night Adam. I had 1 dream recall. And 1 weird experience. It was probably 4:30am, and I must of realized I was dreaming ( or so I think ) but I awoke thinking the words 'hey im dreaming' although I don't remember the dream I was in. Perhaps my excitement woke me up even before I had a chance to think/say the words?

Well again i will attempt it tonight but i have been staying up later and waking up early lately so this may be pointless, well good night everyone!

Originally Posted by LlamaBeanz

I tried your technique last night Adam. I had 1 dream recall. And 1 weird experience. It was probably 4:30am, and I must of realized I was dreaming ( or so I think ) but I awoke thinking the words 'hey im dreaming' although I don't remember the dream I was in. Perhaps my excitement woke me up even before I had a chance to think/say the words?

Weird man, could have happened. Last night I had a weird one too, I wasn't trying this but I remember I was with a girl, and thought to myself, any minute now I am going to wake up, so knew I was dreaming, but just didnt take control and woke up GRRRR!!

Thanks for trying though, and good luck if you try again

Originally Posted by The Question

Well again i will attempt it tonight but i have been staying up later and waking up early lately so this may be pointless, well good night everyone!

Still worth a try

Originally Posted by Applejaxz

hmmmm... I've never heard your theory of the faster you fall asleep, the better the chances for lucid. Good tutorial, props. I have not had a LD since school started, maybe this will work for me. I set my alarm, ill post when i wake up. I will lucid dream tonight.

For me this is how it works, because after I have woken up, I know the sole purpose for me waking up is to get lucid, so it is fresh on my mind, then when I go back to bed and try the WILD part of this, it seems easier to get sleeping right away and lucid...

Might not work for others, it's just what works perfectly for me

second night of trying.

I didnt have the best of sleep last night but I have def made some progress with your technique. I went to bed at 1.30 is and got up at 7.00, this time I spent about 5 mins writing down a dream then got up and walked for a bit to wake my self up more. I spent maybe 8 or 9 mins awake.

I was going really well I started to experince some HI (wichi is a step i have never really got to) I was lying there for about maybe 15 mins which was good. But i got interupted by the bin men collecting recycling and the sound of smashing bottles is not a good sound ha ha. I tried again but was woke up by my brother

Again I had fairly good reacall and feel like I have made some progress with this mate. So hopefully tonight I wont get interupted lol