Thread: Something every LD'er should know, click here.

Originally Posted by sea bee

Oneironaut Jeff777:
Thanks for the great posting and valuable information. If I may question you regarding what is called "false awakening."? I have the salt-cube CD and found it great. It also discusses "false awakenings" too. But somehow I still don't understand what they are? How are they different than being in a normal dream. I don't have a clear understanding of the two. Are you still dreaming during this time?
Thanks for any help. Best, sea bee (a sailor forever)

difference between the two.

Taken from Wikipedia

A false awakening is an event in which someone dreams they have awakened from sleep. This illusion of having awakened is very convincing to the person. After a false awakening, people will usually dream of performing daily morning rituals, believing they have truly awakened. A dream in which a false awakening takes place is sometimes colloquially referred to as a "double dream", or a "dream within a dream".

I hope that helps if not let me know and i'll go in depth for you.

This is why I focus on a different place or room to start my dream in.
Why is it so important to start your dream from your bed in your room?
It creates so many more problems and questions to deal with than is already needed in this process.
You have the universe to be at, yet many want to be in their boring room.

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

This is why I focus on a different place or room to start my dream in.
Why is it so important to start your dream from your bed in your room?
It creates so many more problems and questions to deal with than is already needed in this process.
You have the universe to be at, yet many want to be in their boring room.

The bedroom is a place where many people can relax and are more familiar with, and thus attribute feelings of peace and serenity to the bedroom. It is very good that you do not need this as a crutch but others do, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

This is why I focus on a different place or room to start my dream in.
Why is it so important to start your dream from your bed in your room?
It creates so many more problems and questions to deal with than is already needed in this process.
You have the universe to be at, yet many want to be in their boring room.

Also with WILD's, sometimes its just a matter of your bedroom being the last thing you saw awake, so it becomes the first thing you see when you open your dream eyes.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Also with WILD's, sometimes its just a matter of your bedroom being the last thing you saw awake, so it becomes the first thing you see when you open your dream eyes.

Maybe I should get on that wagon. Missed a LD this morning.
Tried WILDING for 90 mins and finally gave up and fell asleep.
Looking at my room is my next quest.
Any tips for the future if you wake up and can't get back to sleep after RCing and stating the normal chants?

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

Maybe I should get on that wagon. Missed a LD this morning.
Tried WILDING for 90 mins and finally gave up and fell asleep.
Looking at my room is my next quest.
Any tips for the future if you wake up and can't get back to sleep after RCing and stating the normal chants?

Usually if I've woken up too much and I find myself unable to go back to sleep when it's time to WILD, I will layoff the technique(s) and just try and fall asleep in the regular way I would until I feel sleepiness setting in (It's important to keep your clarity/awareness passive) then I will go back to the technique now that being sleepy is no longer a problem.

The only thing I notice as I relax when trying to wild is light. I see purply-whitish swirls float around, and fade out, and thats what i focus on.

Anyway, I was looking at these... and I felt a distinct like... shift, i guess. I was looking at them, and all of a sudden... it felt like I was deep in them and they were all around me. It felt darker... blacker... and just like deep. it was really weird. What was that?

Also, twice, I've had my eyes move around under my eyelids when trying to wild. But its not at the start, like you seem to be saying... it happens as I feel more numb, relaxed, and closer to SP. All of a sudden, they start freaking out... hugely. The first time I tried, it felt like one of my eyes went in a full circle. i can't possibly keep my eyelids closed, they get forced open. Any advice?

Thanks for this thread

Originally Posted by blakkin

The only thing I notice as I relax when trying to wild is light. I see purply-whitish swirls float around, and fade out, and thats what i focus on.

Anyway, I was looking at these... and I felt a distinct like... shift, i guess. I was looking at them, and all of a sudden... it felt like I was deep in them and they were all around me. It felt darker... blacker... and just like deep. it was really weird. What was that?

Also, twice, I've had my eyes move around under my eyelids when trying to wild. But its not at the start, like you seem to be saying... it happens as I feel more numb, relaxed, and closer to SP. All of a sudden, they start freaking out... hugely. The first time I tried, it felt like one of my eyes went in a full circle. i can't possibly keep my eyelids closed, they get forced open. Any advice?

Thanks for this thread

Hello blakkin! thanks for stopping by To answer your first question regarding the purplish white things you see in your closed eyes...I would have to say it's H.I. (Hypnagogic Imagery). It sounds dead-on to H.I. actually.

And before I answer your second question let me ask you a question first. Have you done the method I recommended for energetic eyes?