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Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Also with WILD's, sometimes its just a matter of your bedroom being the last thing you saw awake, so it becomes the first thing you see when you open your dream eyes.

Maybe I should get on that wagon. Missed a LD this morning.
Tried WILDING for 90 mins and finally gave up and fell asleep.
Looking at my room is my next quest.
Any tips for the future if you wake up and can't get back to sleep after RCing and stating the normal chants?

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

Maybe I should get on that wagon. Missed a LD this morning.
Tried WILDING for 90 mins and finally gave up and fell asleep.
Looking at my room is my next quest.
Any tips for the future if you wake up and can't get back to sleep after RCing and stating the normal chants?

Usually if I've woken up too much and I find myself unable to go back to sleep when it's time to WILD, I will layoff the technique(s) and just try and fall asleep in the regular way I would until I feel sleepiness setting in (It's important to keep your clarity/awareness passive) then I will go back to the technique now that being sleepy is no longer a problem.

The only thing I notice as I relax when trying to wild is light. I see purply-whitish swirls float around, and fade out, and thats what i focus on.

Anyway, I was looking at these... and I felt a distinct like... shift, i guess. I was looking at them, and all of a sudden... it felt like I was deep in them and they were all around me. It felt darker... blacker... and just like deep. it was really weird. What was that?

Also, twice, I've had my eyes move around under my eyelids when trying to wild. But its not at the start, like you seem to be saying... it happens as I feel more numb, relaxed, and closer to SP. All of a sudden, they start freaking out... hugely. The first time I tried, it felt like one of my eyes went in a full circle. i can't possibly keep my eyelids closed, they get forced open. Any advice?

Thanks for this thread

Originally Posted by blakkin

The only thing I notice as I relax when trying to wild is light. I see purply-whitish swirls float around, and fade out, and thats what i focus on.

Anyway, I was looking at these... and I felt a distinct like... shift, i guess. I was looking at them, and all of a sudden... it felt like I was deep in them and they were all around me. It felt darker... blacker... and just like deep. it was really weird. What was that?

Also, twice, I've had my eyes move around under my eyelids when trying to wild. But its not at the start, like you seem to be saying... it happens as I feel more numb, relaxed, and closer to SP. All of a sudden, they start freaking out... hugely. The first time I tried, it felt like one of my eyes went in a full circle. i can't possibly keep my eyelids closed, they get forced open. Any advice?

Thanks for this thread

Hello blakkin! thanks for stopping by To answer your first question regarding the purplish white things you see in your closed eyes...I would have to say it's H.I. (Hypnagogic Imagery). It sounds dead-on to H.I. actually.

And before I answer your second question let me ask you a question first. Have you done the method I recommended for energetic eyes?

Hi jeff! i've been trying this couple of times and every time i fail. the problem is not staying still, the problem is what's happening after 30-45 min of stayin still. my whole body goes crazzy, tears are commin from my eyes and i feel weakness troughout body. i can overcome that but then happens something really wierd... i can't feel my body anymore exept head and arms, the rest of the body is totally numb. whole body, from feets to neck is up in the air. i know it's not really but i feel it that way. and i can't fell asleep. whats the problem, am i doing something wrong here?

help pls!

Originally Posted by samorau

Hi jeff! i've been trying this couple of times and every time i fail. the problem is not staying still, the problem is what's happening after 30-45 min of stayin still. my whole body goes crazzy, tears are commin from my eyes and i feel weakness troughout body. i can overcome that but then happens something really wierd... i can't feel my body anymore exept head and arms, the rest of the body is totally numb. whole body, from feets to neck is up in the air. i know it's not really but i feel it that way. and i can't fell asleep. whats the problem, am i doing something wrong here?

help pls!

This happens to me too except it happens a lot sooner than 30 mins. I always thought this was my body making me unconfortable but maybe that's me in SP? Anyway I can never go to sleep like that and my mind always has some way of convincing me that I'll never sleep like that so I move I think it just takes a lot of willpower. If I stay like that long enough though, I no longer become aware of my body at all, I feel enclosed in my mind.

Originally Posted by samorau

Hi jeff! i've been trying this couple of times and every time i fail. the problem is not staying still, the problem is what's happening after 30-45 min of stayin still. my whole body goes crazzy, tears are commin from my eyes and i feel weakness troughout body. i can overcome that but then happens something really wierd... i can't feel my body anymore exept head and arms, the rest of the body is totally numb. whole body, from feets to neck is up in the air. i know it's not really but i feel it that way. and i can't fell asleep. whats the problem, am i doing something wrong here?

help pls!

Try doing a relaxation exercise before your attempts. Breathing exercises work wonders for me and I suggest you try one as well. Also do not forget, it's very important to stay calm throughout your experience.

My problem is, I feel creeped out in my room. I'm sorry but its just flate out creepy at night and I end up not doing it because I feel uncomfortble.