Thread: before, after or during?

im sorry, this is a quick question but something I've never properly considered despite my MANY wbtb attempts.

the way I like to practice WILD (in the hope of success) is to work through different methods changing only one variable at a time.

However, they all rely on a WBTB...and I would be willing to put a large amount of failure on improper timings...

So.. (my question)...

-are we supposed (or suggested) to wake up after...before...during REM sleep?

Thank you

That is a pretty good question. Maybe all of them would work. I've never WILDed, so it's hard for me to say.

I think it would be after, for if you wake up during, you're going to be really tired and mentally disoriented, it might seriously damage your chances of a WILD [all of that however, was really just a suggestion you could probably disregard, I've only managed WILD once and it wasn't even intentional... I was just too lost in thought and found myself in a dream, already lucid O.o]

Well I always try to time it after, not only because it`s the only way I can wake myself up naturally, but because the dreams I just had are still fresh in my mind.

yeah spartiate? thanks for the answer (though this may sound silly) but have you had any success with this timing?

maybe any other successful WBTB practicers could share some thoughts please, as its a pretty big part of perfecting a technique for myself

Originally Posted by james_jlc

yeah spartiate? thanks for the answer (though this may sound silly) but have you had any success with this timing?

maybe any other successful WBTB practicers could share some thoughts please, as its a pretty big part of perfecting a technique for myself

Yes, well I wake up naturally after a dream period (this from training myself with MILD and such), so I always wake up right after the end of REM sleep. I can pretty much set a time in my mind to wake up to before falling asleep (only if I`m well rested though), I usually wake up 5-10 minutes past the desired time.