Thread: I suck at LD.

Skip the WILD for now. That's too hard and evidently it's not working for you. Don't feel bad, some people are good at it and some not--I wish I was good at it too, but I"m not.

How is your recall? Are you keeping a journal? Are you making serious efforts to do a lot of reality checks? Those are really the basics, and until you start really doing those things, you can't expect to get lucid.

Honestly, my dream recall is garbage. Ive been trying to make it better by keeping a journal. But usually, i almost never remember my dreams. So i end up not writing anything down. I wake up and instantly forget my dream.

This happens alot. Ill dream, then wake up get out of bed and by the time im standing up i already forget the dream.

I try to reality checks during my day, to make it a habit for when i dream. But that seems to have little to no effect.

Anyone?

Originally Posted by moe007

Honestly, my dream recall is garbage. Ive been trying to make it better by keeping a journal. But usually, i almost never remember my dreams. So i end up not writing anything down. I wake up and instantly forget my dream.

This happens alot. Ill dream, then wake up get out of bed and by the time im standing up i already forget the dream.

I try to reality checks during my day, to make it a habit for when i dream. But that seems to have little to no effect.

Anyone?

ah I used to have this problem with moving and forgetting my dreams. What I do is keep a note pad by my bed and as soon as I wake I compose it in my mind before moving then in the dark with my eyes closed I write down all I can remember.....its messy but it works for me

do you use an alarm to wake up during your sleep? maybe that would help. also how long on average do you sleep a night cos the long I sleep the better my recall

I tried that as well i put a notebook next to my bed, but by the time i reach for it and start writing, half the details of the dream are gone.

I use an alarm on weekdays, but for weekends or if im on break i sleep late.
As for sleep duration, I have a very unusual sleep cycle. I usually sleep late, around 12-3am, to about 10-1pm ON WEEKENDS. On weekdays i try to sleep at or before midnight, and wake up at 7:30am

Originally Posted by moe007

I tried that as well i put a notebook next to my bed, but by the time i reach for it and start writing, half the details of the dream are gone.

right if the written DJ is not working out for you why dont you try using a Dictaphone? keep it under your pillow then as soon as you wake quickly take a second to record atleast the key facts about the dream.

Anything you can recall even a feeling or single phrase is useful. Im not sure of the success of these but try some of the subliminal recordings that are available in the lucid aids section (I think they are there)

Originally Posted by moe007

I use an alarm on weekdays, but for weekends or if im on break i sleep late.
As for sleep duration, I have a very unusual sleep cycle. I usually sleep late, around 12-3am, to about 10-1pm ON WEEKENDS. On weekdays i try to sleep at or before midnight, and wake up at 7:30am

hmmm do you use mild at all? this has been really useful for me

Without recall, you could even be having lucids and not remembering them. They are as easy to forget as regular dreams--so good recall is absolutely critical.

Just write whatever you can remember. Work backwards. Often more will come back to you as you write, so you end remembering a lot more of a dream than you thought you did.

Hmm. Ill have to try the recorder idea. I dont think that i fully understand MILD. Its just setting a strong intention right? Ive done that and got no results.

Also if i had a lucid dream i really think i would remember it. You dont know how much i want to have one, and im sure if ANYTHING happens in my dreams that is somewhat lucid ill remember it

I want to have one so bad that it makes me want to

Originally Posted by moe007

Hmm. Ill have to try the recorder idea. I dont think that i fully understand MILD. Its just setting a strong intention right? Ive done that and got no results.

here is quite a good tutorial on mild
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=1885

Originally Posted by moe007

Also if i had a lucid dream i really think i would remember it. You dont know how much i want to have one, and im sure if ANYTHING happens in my dreams that is somewhat lucid ill remember it

believe it or not that the can be as hard to remember as normal dreams and its very annoying when you forget them lol

Originally Posted by moe007

I want to have one so bad that it makes me want to

hey why dont you start a online DJ, I found that the support of people on here can be very good motivation

Originally Posted by mark

hey why dont you start a online DJ, I found that the support of people on here can be very good motivation

I Started one, but its not that great :/

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=49962

Originally Posted by mark

hey why dont you start a online DJ, I found that the support of people on here can be very good motivation

Yes, mark is right about that. It keeps me going a lot of times. I'll check out your journal.

Haha the problem with the journals is that you have to wait until you sleep, and wake up to write in them

FOr example, for school days, i barly have time in the morning to get dressed and eat. I savour every minute of sleep. And i cant get on the computer and write about it in a long detailed post.

don't be so hard on urself.

since joining DreamViews i've LD'd a lot more. it helps- sort of a reminder. if you're here often enough, it brands the concept of LD in ur brain so you DILD more.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Jones

don't be so hard on urself.

since joining DreamViews i've LD'd a lot more. it helps- sort of a reminder. if you're here often enough, it brands the concept of LD in ur brain so you DILD more.

THanks

I hope so. I joined DreamViews like couple days ago. Im on everyday reading as much as i can. I want to get the stuff implanted in my brain so i can just be more aware during my dreams and maybe ill get a DILD.

Any advice is appriciated

do you have a journal?

Originally Posted by Mrs. Jones

do you have a journal?

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=49962

Its very short i started it recently

cool. your recall's good. i'd bet you'll have an LD soon.

edit: sometimes i go thru my journal looking for potential dream signs, then do a reality check when i find one.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Jones

cool. your recall's good, i'd bet you'll have an LD soon.

Ive been trying for two years.

and ive had 2 lucid dreams.

same for me. 2 years. haha. but i've had a lot more since joining DV.

what's really helped me is realizing the most effective Reality check for me: question everything. let's say the reality check is pulling on your fingers. if you're dreaming, something weird is supposed to happen to your fingers. but weird things happen all the time when you're dreaming, and you never notice. so why should pulling on your fingers be any different?

however, if you look at the what happens to your fingers, then actually think about it, "is this logical?", then you increase yoru chances of realizing you're dreaming.

but usually i don't focus on my fingers or anything in particular. i'm just aware of everything around me and ask myself if everything is in order. in dreams, it's hard to just notice weird things. you have to question them.

Have you considered some of the supplements? There are people who say Galantamine and Choline are the greatest things since Christmas. I'm gonna try it myself. It should be arriving next week.

Also, maybe try some external cues. After a WBTB, set your cell phone to count down 10-15 minutes and then silently turn on its light. You should be asleep and dreaming and if the phone is right in front of your face, it might help make you lucid.

Just some suggestions.

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

Have you considered some of the supplements? There are people who say Galantamine and Choline are the greatest things since Christmas. I'm gonna try it myself. It should be arriving next week.

Also, maybe try some external cues. After a WBTB, set your cell phone to count down 10-15 minutes and then silently turn on its light. You should be asleep and dreaming and if the phone is right in front of your face, it might help make you lucid.

Just some suggestions.

Could you try the supplements when you get them and tell me if anything amazing happens?

Also, i tried the WBTB method last night. I set my phone to wake me from the 5 hour sleep at 4:30. I naturally woke up at 4. Weird. I stayed in bed to about 4:20, went to bathroom and started the WILD.

I just got sleepy and numb, and bored. SO i just turned over and went to sleep.

nothing happened :/

Sure, I'll let you know. Here's another thread with other peoples' experiences. The majority of them were very impressed. That's why I decided to try it.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=38677

I've been trying WILD for a month with no success. Hopefully this will help.

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

Sure, I'll let you know. Here's another thread with other peoples' experiences. The majority of them were very impressed. That's why I decided to try it.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=38677

I've been trying WILD for a month with no success. Hopefully this will help.

Can you find these instore? Or do i have to order it off the internet?

I looked around, but I couldn't find them at any store. I too wanted to avoid the hassle of mail order and just buy them at a regular store, but Galantamine just can't be found, not where I am at least.

Choline is pretty common though. But without the Galantamine to disrupt the mechanism that regulates how much goes Choline is in your brain, any excess you take will just be flushed out. You may have a deficiency, and if that's the case, Choline by itself would be beneficial. Choline is found in lots of foods though, so that's not likely.

Hmm alright.

My father is a doctor i asked him about it he said its safe.
But i dont want to go through a hassle and order it and buy it etc etc

hmm. Do u have a good site to buy from?