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      Ninja's DEILD tutorial

      DEILD (Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream) is an almost perfect method for becoming lucid. Because of the way it works, if you do it just right you will be pretty much assured a lucid dream. It is basically just an abbreviated WILD, without the ride of sleep paralysis.

      Why it works:

      Immediately after waking up, the dreaming section of the brain is still turned on and will stay that way for a few moments or until you move. This is why it is not uncommon for hallucinations to follow waking up. On a similar note, what you perceive is still being written to your dream memory, which is largely erased after waking up. This is why it is not uncommon to get up during the night and have no recollection of it the next morning.

      If youíve ever been talking to someone and they asked you if you had been sleeping when they called you the previous night and you didnít remember being on the phone at all, then youíve experienced this phenomenon. These are rare because the real memory usually kicks back on after only a few seconds, but certain conditions can cause it to stay dormant. Lack of sleep is one; your mind is still sorting itself out and needs more time before turning on again.

      Since you are still technically in REM brainwaves then you can immediately fall back into a dream without tricking your body to sleep.

      How to do it:

      When you wake up, donít move! You probably wake up after every dream, but you donít remember it. Try and catch it, most of the time at the very end of a dream you will start to get senses from outside of your dream so you momentarily become lucid (it may be a fraction of a second.) If you open your eyes or move any part of you then the odds are good that you have chased away your chances at DEILDing until your next REM cycle.

      If you recognize that a dream is ending stay still so that a hypnogogic jerk doesnít force you to move and remind yourself to DEILD.

      You can use an external device to wake you up, such as an alarm (I use a watch,) but you canít move to get up and turn it off, so find one that goes off after a second or two. The shorter the duration, the better.

      Now, if you havenít moved you are almost guaranteed a lucid dream. The only way that you will not have a lucid dream is if you were at the very end of the REM cycle and your mind wants to go back to deep sleep, or you chase it away with too much complexity.

      Now, you can either imagine the dream scenario that you want to go into, or re-enter the dream that you were just in. The first method may be more difficultÖ no, it is more difficult and here is why: Your brain then has to produce a whole new dream. This means rendering a scene, adding the surroundings, adding light, shadows, everything else. This is hard to do all at once and the brain might panic and wake up completely, losing your lucid dream.

      Dream re-entry is better for beginners, and probably better for everyone. You can fly away or change scenery once you already have the dream locked in. Visualize the dream that you were just in, if you canít remember it, then youíre too awake and wonít be able to DEILD. Donít just focus on visuals, but also the sensations and the sounds as well. Within a short period of time (it should be less than a minute) you will see your last dream and enter it.

      This is very useful for continuing lucid dreams that you lost. Many of us do it. You may notice that my DEILD count in my signature is fairly low, so why would I be writing about DEILDs? Well, whenever Iím feeling that Iím losing a lucid dream I donít spin or rub my hands or anything like that. I find that I get better results by allowing myself to wake up and then re-entering it with the DEILD technique. If I counted each time Iíve done that, then my DEILD count would be very much higher.

      Something to note:

      It is likely that when you re-enter your dream you can still feel your body in your bed. You may not want to move in fears that you might lose your sleep paralysis and wake up. This is a trick that your mind is playing on you. If you are in the dream then your body is paralysis and you are asleep. You can do one of two things in this situation, you can do something in your dream that is very senses oriented or you can allow yourself to have a false awakening.

      By very senses oriented I mean: Do something that will allow you to feel your dream body and forget about the one that itís your bed. I always discourage sex in lucid dreams, but it may be a good way to forget your real body.

      To do a false awakening, close your dream eyes and you will find yourself in your bed. Do a reality check, you are more than likely still dreaming. Almost all WILD (and DEILD is a type of WILD,) begin with a false awakening.

      I consider myself well versed in DEILDs and if there are any questions do not hesitate to PM me, I always respond.

      -ninja9578

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      nice tutorial ninja very informative.
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      Great tutorial! i have one question though, when you wake up and dont move can you think? what im trying to say this when you WILD you cant concentrate on your thoughts or you will fail so when you do DEILD will it matter?
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      You shouldn't have time to think, you have to start visualizing your last dream right away.

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      Thank you for the very detailed tutorial, ninja!
      Sure, I created the technique but I love how you described it perfectly, I also loved your "Why it works" section, you've captured it in words better than I could.

      I did a quick scan through, and may I suggest you add chaining in there? Because I believe you didn't cover it in here, or at least I didn't see it and it's one of the big selling points of DEILD.

      (You know what I mean, chaining on more and more...)
      Otherwise, this is very well done, again, thank you!
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      Last paragraph before Something to Note section.

      Dr. Laberge invented this technique. A bunch of people wrote tutorials for it here, but none of them ever made it to the tutorial section, I wrote this so that Billybob can move it there. Lots of people ask about it.

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      Okay, great.
      Your choice of working was a little weird, but I see it clearly now!
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      Nice tutorial

      One question. I have never attempted a WILD because of SP, but i am sure I read for WILD that you must try to keep your mind awake. Should i try and keep myself aware of what I am doing? or just fall asleep while thinking of my last dream, and it should work?

      EDIT: Actually sorry thats basically the same question as aceboys, i read through it all before posting but just sort of didn't register those posts, lol.
      Last edited by Ceonsamea; 02-21-2008 at 09:16 PM.

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      I'm gonna remember. I think it was something like this I did this night. I woke myself up from a bad dream and fell alseep a few seconds again, that dream became lucid...

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      Keep your mind awake. It's a type of WILD.

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      I use these moments to engrave my previous dream in my memory, then I fall back to sleep. When I awake, I remember that dream I engraved.

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      Thx to both of you, ninja and klace.
      i think i did some kind of DEILD before i knew about LD, and that's my first LDs to.
      nice tutorials both of you to btw.

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      I would like to add that even if you do move after waking up, this technique has still worked for me as long as I kept my eyes closed. Also, several times I've used this tech and had sleep paralysis which I quite enjoy. This works really well, enjoy everyone!

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      I need to remember to try this when I wake up in the middle of the night...I just got a great idea! I'll be back!
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      I think I may have found a way to wake myself up without having to move after waking. I have a clock radio that I normally use to wake myself up, but it keeps playing until I stop it. However, before the music/radio starts playing, it makes a sound just loud enough to wake me up. If I turn the volume off on the clock, that sound will wake me up and I won't have to turn the music off, and can simply DEILD! Hopefully the noise won't cause me to jerk awake.
      Last edited by Pastulio_; 02-24-2008 at 05:58 AM.
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      Sounds like a plan

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      I think If I want to I will be a natural at DIELDing.
      I wake up EVERY SINGLE night .
      Mostly because I am a time whore and I am very precise with it.
      If I set my alarm clock to 8AM , I wake at least 2 hours before.

      whooo woooo, thanks a lot ninja
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pastulio_ View Post
      I think I may have found a way to wake myself up without having to move after waking. I have a clock radio that I normally use to wake myself up, but it keeps playing until I stop it. However, before the music/radio starts playing, it makes a sound just loud enough to wake me up. If I turn the volume off on the clock, that sound will wake me up and I won't have to turn the music off, and can simply DEILD! Hopefully the noise won't cause me to jerk awake.
      thx. that made another idea get into my head. i use to set the alarm to get up in the night and write DJ, and then set an egg timer. don't have to turn it off. so after waking up and writing Dj i set the egg timer and go back to sleep. =)

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      I see many DEILD Q and A that tell us how to DEILD but most of them skip over HOW to wake up after a dream. They say 'JUST DO'.

      Well I don't remember it. I'm not saying I don't wake up I'm just saying I don't remember.

      So please enlighten me... HOW DO I GET FROM SLEEP---> being 'aware'/'awake' but not moving?

      Mantra's? Meditation??

      :O Help please
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      Well, I just wake up in the night several times.
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      I've got a question. I know DEILD is a quicker version of WILD, is it normal to hear "things" as you are DEILDing? I woke up last night and tried DEILDing, but as I was, I heard a sound like a werewolf howling! My dog was next to me on my bed, so I looked to see if it was him, but he was asleep. My mom didn't mention anything about it this morning either, so it seems like it was just me. So, are hallucinations normal when DEILDing?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pastulio_ View Post
      are hallucinations normal when DEILDing?
      I think so... my friend says he heard a whisper say "DILD is the best." So I guess so. And as it involves SP, it would make sense. Although you most likely wont really experiance SP because you fall to sleep very quickly.

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      This sounds like a very good plan to me, I'll try this.
      Quote Originally Posted by Terrorhawker View Post
      It isn't like your dream recall got up in the middle of the night and thought, "Fuck him, I'm going somewhere else."

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      Thanks, man. I think I have done this before.

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      Really good walkthrough I must say. Much gratitude!

      I've never tried this way of becoming lucid before. Then I don't wake up at night either and cannot make a clock go off because of my brother sleeping 3 meters away. But I will find some way to get into an awakened state and then try this method.
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