Thread: Ninja's DEILD tutorial

i like to use my body clock to wake myself up, it works really well, i just have to be carful not to open my eyes.

i have a question. i think i have done this before and just continued the dream non-lucidly, how do you re-enter and kamke sure you stay lucid, because you say we wake up several times in the night, well how come we dont become lucid on those occasions?

thanks for any replies

Originally Posted by cygnus

nobody friggin answered her.

Nobody understood him! Is it just reapeating a mantra like "When I hear the alarm, I will stay still"? I just seem not to wake up... Anyway with no help I will try this 1 tonight.

This isn't working for me. I lie there still with my eyes closed for ten minutes after waking from my dream and I hear its not supposed to take that long and absolutely nothing happens. Its so frustrating please help. I get frustrated since I know its not working but technically im doing nothing wrong am I missing something?

Thanks ninja I got immediate results

Ninja9578 said they use a watch. What type of watch do you use ninja? Or does anyone know what type of watch turns itself off?

I use a watch that alarms on the hour every hour and the alarm shuts off after a few seconds. It should be a vibrating alarm, not an audible one.

This technique is for the more experienced i imagine

Originally Posted by JapJap

This technique is for the more experienced i imagine

I got it to work my first attempt, I think its easier than WILD. But harder than DILD.

Yeah, not really advanced. The only difficult part is catching yourself right when you wake up, before you move.

The problem for me, is that I struggle to remember my dreams after waking up. Like I have good recall, but it takes me thinking about my dreams for a while to remember them, I feel like if I lie there for a few minutes remembering my dreams it'd wake me up to much. Do you recomend just creating a new scenario, or?

Haha, well I've been trying deild for a while now, and I've had moderate success I guess. I can stay still fine, but I just can't transition? I'll get hallucinations, like once the whole house started shaking, and I was like vibrating. And once this thing was dragging across the floor, making really scary noises, and then I felt it climb into bed. I told myself it was all a dream. But the stuff eventually faded, and It just didn't work.
Do I watch the hallucinations, and pay attention to them? Do I keep visualising when this happens? Do I stop when this happens?

I will feel vibrations like a wild right?

Also, it is fine to wake myself with an alarm in the beginning/middle of an rem stage, correct?

I have a few questions:

1. When I drink a lot of water before sleeping, I will wake up in my next REM cycle. Do I wake up at the very beginning or the end of the cycle?

2. What is the best time for DEILD? At the beginning or the end of an REM cycle (once I figured out when they happen)?

3. I have multiple cycles of REM in a night, should i set my DEILD alarm in the early or later ones?

This is ridiculious, questions haven't been answered since the 18/9.
If you're going to have a guide, you could at least attempt to help people who took the time to read your work.

I've bookmarked this, it's helped me understand alot more, so much so that I know how to do it now. Thanks, brilliant tutorial

No, you will most likely not feel vibrations, usually you will just slip right into a dream. This is one of the allures of the DEILD technique.

To get out of your bed, you can try imagining your dream body leaving your real one. After the transition I'm almost always in my bed and everything feels normal. Normally I can sit up and go, but one time I couldn't really move. So I imagined my arms lifting out of my body, and voila! With a little resistance, then give, I could actually feel my arms leaving my body behind. The rest of me followed. I guess this is sort of an OBE, since I could've turned around and seen my sleeping body, but I was afraid that would destabilize my dream, so I didn't.