[WILD Pros!] WILD Issue, sort of blockade.

**Conquer** · 04-19-2008 01:06 AM

Hey, whats up? How are you? I'm fine, thx.

Anyways, I'm trying to WILD.

Spoiler for (Background):

Whenever I WILD, I get to SP successfully. My body is intensely heavy and I can get my SP completely over my body, but as far as I can get right now, my heart speeds up, and starts going really fast, then, I'm not sure what is supposed to happen next so I start of just lay there.

I've tried to open my 'dream' eyes, focus on visuals, etc. But nothing works. When I open my real eyes, I'm still awake, and still have my SP.

Suggestions on getting past this, anyone?

Thx

**Arthurium** · 04-19-2008 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Conquer

Hey, whats up? How are you? I'm fine, thx.

Anyways, I'm trying to WILD.

Spoiler for (Background):

Whenever I WILD, I get to SP successfully. My body is intensely heavy and I can get my SP completely over my body, but as far as I can get right now, my heart speeds up, and starts going really fast, then, I'm not sure what is supposed to happen next so I start of just lay there.

I've tried to open my 'dream' eyes, focus on visuals, etc. But nothing works. When I open my real eyes, I'm still awake, and still have my SP.

Suggestions on getting past this, anyone?

Thx

I used to get stuck at that point.

To get past that I would take 100mg b5/ 100mg b6 when I wake in the middle of the night. That seems to provoke you into actually dreaming.

Also, I found that I needed to try to stay awake while my body was going to sleep, after that you try to goto sleep to start a dream.

**Conquer** · 04-19-2008 01:39 AM

Well, I don't really want to take supliments or anything. I don't think I understand what you're trying to say in your final paragraph.. What do you mean "after that you try to goto sleep to start a dream", if I try just going to sleep I'll lose conciousness... o_O

**Arthurium** · 04-19-2008 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Conquer

Well, I don't really want to take supliments or anything. I don't think I understand what you're trying to say in your final paragraph.. What do you mean "after that you try to goto sleep to start a dream", if I try just going to sleep I'll lose conciousness... o_O

Basically, when you lay down your mind wants your body to goto sleep. So you try to stay awake by counting / etc.

Eventually you will feel different. Your body will feel heavy. At this point your mind is not trying to make you goto sleep. This is when I will stop counting and just relax, either I wake up in a dream or I wake up in SP and get sucked in.

I once heard someone on here say "When you WILD... The point is not to stay awake, but is to fall asleep."

**Conquer** · 04-19-2008 02:51 AM

Alright, I'll keep trying I guess. Thanks.

**Arthurium** · 04-19-2008 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Conquer

Alright, I'll keep trying I guess. Thanks.

It took me a year of trying to figure it out. Its not easy, but it is well worth it. Good luck!

**Nihao** · 01-26-2012 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Arthurium

....when I wake in the middle of the night. That seems to provoke you into actually dreaming.

I would point out at WBTB advantage. I had tried WILD before sleep for years with similar result ( SP and fast heart rate ). Once I started to WILD during WBTB it worked almost immediately. After a couple of hours of sleep the body is naturally relaxed. Sometimes too much to be aware enough so some time staying awake is required...

**Reamous** · 02-26-2011 11:18 PM

I have the exact same problem, Conquer. I get to the SP state, but then my heart rate feels like it doubles, then I feel like I can barely breathe, so I have to breathe a lot quicker. I eventually wake up sad and dissapointed. D:

I tried to WILD earlier today and almost saw a man sitting at a computer desk, but it went fuzzy when I got excited. I'll try the things you all said, hopefully they'll help.

**sanctum** · 01-23-2012 01:44 AM

You shouldn't be lying there in SP for more than a few minutes at most. SP should be quickly followed/accompanied by HI. You're probably being too aware of your body while you're relaxing. Your mind should be in a heavily relaxed state. Whenever I get to SP, I don't actually feel my body. I know I'm in SP because it's accompanied by a change in awareness--instead of being sleepy and my consciousness fading, I'll suddenly feel aware. But I won't feel any sensations from my body, just a sort of heightened awareness. A few seconds later I get hit with a few waves of vibrations, and once they're over I can open my eyes in the dream.