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      Another WILD questioin

      i have been reading a lot on the forum about WILDing and i am still confused as to what i am suppose to feel. i have gotten to the point where my mind is isolated into my head and i see the swirls under my eye lids, i am not sure if i was under SP because i did feel very heavy and felt vibrations and movements but i was to afraid to move to see check if i was dreaming. i waiting at this stage for close to an hour and i have no idea where should go from there. i tried visualizing myself being on a beach, falling out of my body, floating to the ceiling but nothing worked. also keep in mind i just a few days ago so im not expecting to get it down now im just curious as to what i am supposed to do after that point

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spinagolz View Post
      i have been reading a lot on the forum about WILDing and i am still confused as to what i am suppose to feel. i have gotten to the point where my mind is isolated into my head and i see the swirls under my eye lids, i am not sure if i was under SP because i did feel very heavy and felt vibrations and movements but i was to afraid to move to see check if i was dreaming. i waiting at this stage for close to an hour and i have no idea where should go from there. i tried visualizing myself being on a beach, falling out of my body, floating to the ceiling but nothing worked. also keep in mind i just a few days ago so im not expecting to get it down now im just curious as to what i am supposed to do after that point
      Hey man, I find myself with the same problem. Lastnight though I feel that I got closer than ever (sleep paralisis) when my entire body felt really weird, kinda energetic feeling yet I was very relaxed. Though I'm not sure what to do from that point either.

      It seems like you're supposed to stay relaxed and clear-minded until you find yourself in the dream state but I feel that I may be to anxious to enter the dream state that It's keeping me awake or something.

      I too would enjoy seeing some answers to this thread.
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      There are answers to this but unfortunately they're scattered all over the forum!
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      yeah i figured that it would be somewhere but i looked around and couldnt find any answers

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      Have you tried the tutorial section? I'm off to bed now.
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      yeah ive read all of the articles about WILDs in the tutorial section it really doesnt describe what im supposed to feel well enough for me... maybe im just retarded

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      Talking hmm

      I've had the same problem I've gotten to pretty vague HI but nothing more, although i think if you just kept a clear head and DON'T wonder when you will go into a dream, (a tip from BillyBob which i thought might be helpful) maybe try a few techniques out in the meantime(visualizing scenery,falling through the bed etc) and hopefully you'll either strike a technique that works or just randomly fall in to a dream.

      Also if you haven't got a LD yet just stay determined, I'm a newb and I've just got my 1st 2 LD's yesterday morning.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shrimpster View Post
      I've had the same problem I've gotten to pretty vague HI but nothing more, although i think if you just kept a clear head and DON'T wonder when you will go into a dream, (a tip from BillyBob which i thought might be helpful) maybe try a few techniques out in the meantime(visualizing scenery,falling through the bed etc) and hopefully you'll either strike a technique that works or just randomly fall in to a dream.

      Also if you haven't got a LD yet just stay determined, I'm a newb and I've just got my 1st 2 LD's yesterday morning.

      Good Luck with future WILDing and LDing in general
      Thanks dude. That should help.

      Just out of curiosity, what did you do to get your first LD?
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      I think I seriously just spent 30mins-hour trying to enter sleep paralysis. It was like 2 AM before I got to sleep though, so maybe all I need is some good rest? I did a Wake Back to Bed of like 4hours 30 mins, sipped some water, went to bathroom, then back to the bed. I went over relaxation techniques first to get myself relaxed. I then spent the next 30mins to an hour just laying, breathing, getting more and more relaxed, feeling my body get heavier and heavier, started seeing flashes of light in my visual perception, but I still felt no physical sensations that lead to sleep paralysis.

      Upon finally decided to call it a night, I paid particular attention to how my body felt upon shifting positions. When I moved my body I could tell it felt locked into its position, weighed down, relaxed, and constricted, so I needed to do a big stretch. It feels like my body was pretty close to sleep paralysis because initially it took more effort then normal to switch positions and I felt the above, but it was not FULL sleep paralysis.

      You see as a kid I would wake up still in sleep paralysis stage sometimes, so I KNOW what it feels like to be in it fully, you can't move, you can't scream/yell...etc. However, I've never felt the in between stages of sleep paralysis, so I'm in your situation where I'm kinda sorta guessing what I should be feeling.

      I've just got to do some more testing and figure out if its a matter of not being "disconnected" from my mind enough, or what?

      I would love some insight on this. I think I will meditate on it today(that's my forte, no problems there).
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      Quote Originally Posted by dtrevinofl View Post
      I think I seriously just spent 30mins-hour trying to enter sleep paralysis. It was like 2 AM before I got to sleep though, so maybe all I need is some good rest? I did a Wake Back to Bed of like 4hours 30 mins, sipped some water, went to bathroom, then back to the bed. I went over relaxation techniques first to get myself relaxed. I then spent the next 30mins to an hour just laying, breathing, getting more and more relaxed, feeling my body get heavier and heavier, started seeing flashes of light in my visual perception, but I still felt no physical sensations that lead to sleep paralysis.

      Upon finally decided to call it a night, I paid particular attention to how my body felt upon shifting positions. When I moved my body I could tell it felt locked into its position, weighed down, relaxed, and constricted, so I needed to do a big stretch. It feels like my body was pretty close to sleep paralysis because initially it took more effort then normal to switch positions and I felt the above, but it was not FULL sleep paralysis.

      You see as a kid I would wake up still in sleep paralysis stage sometimes, so I KNOW what it feels like to be in it fully, you can't move, you can't scream/yell...etc. However, I've never felt the in between stages of sleep paralysis, so I'm in your situation where I'm kinda sorta guessing what I should be feeling.

      I've just got to do some more testing and figure out if its a matter of not being "disconnected" from my mind enough, or what?

      I would love some insight on this. I think I will meditate on it today(that's my forte, no problems there).
      Yeah man you basically just described the situation I'm in. It's a bitch is it not?
      I can't seem to get past deep relaxation.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sony86 View Post
      Thanks dude. That should help.

      Just out of curiosity, what did you do to get your first LD?
      Well it was a bit of a mix, but anyway I woke up naturally at about 6am to WILD(thought I would of gotten up earlier as I usually wake up half-way through the night)and attempted to WILD for an hour unsuccessfully, anyway I fell back asleep later and had a FA where I did the hand RC, I had 8 fingers,(I do RC's whenever I wake up incase of FA's) and I quickly left that dream and had a DEILD as I vaguely remember waking up for about 5-10 seconds..the DEILD was short too..
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      Sounds like you just need to let yourself fall asleep. If you don't fall asleep within an hour then you must actually be preventing yourself from sleeping during your attempt. I haven't read the tutorials, so I may not know what I'm talking about, but it probably should only take you as long to WILD as it normally takes you to fall asleep. Actually I find that I'm more likely to be successful if it takes me a shorter time than usual to fall asleep. I suggest waiting until you don't feel completely conscious before trying whatever technique you're using.

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